1801 Draped Bust... UPDATED MAY 6TH: DIE ERROR, 1 OVER 0

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I got out with Elad this morning to a site I detected a few years back. The town was in existance from about 1870. I was hoping to find some Seated coins or Barbers. Within a few minutes of detecting I got a solid 86 on my DFX. I was expecting to find a can or some other trash, but about 3 inches down was the 1942S Walking Half!

That was all I found for quite a while, so I decided to try a different spot that was away from the road. Within a few minutes I got a solid Penny reading at about six inches. I figured it had to be an old Wheatie by the sound. I dug down about 8 or 9 inches in the sandy soil and there was nothing in the plug. I pinpointed the bottom of the hole and got a signal for a second, but then it was gone. Now I knew by the depth that it may be something good. I was very surprised, however to find the Draped Bust looking up at me! I was not expecting, or even hoping for a large cent based on the location!

A few minutes later I found a silver Rosie, which I must have dropped in all the excitement. Normally this would have haunted me, but with the other finds, I will live with it! I also found the table "paw", The harmonica reeds including the BIGGEST one I have ever seen, and an iron piece that looks like a bayonette tip(?) I have found these before so any help would be appreciated.

Elad found his first Indian Head and a really cool silver thimble. WTG Dale!

Thanks for looking!

UPDATE MAY 6TH, 2008: I heard back from an expert who offered to confirm Don's identification of the coin(see Don's reply below for details), and here is what he said:

Hi Neil,

Yep - S-221. First thought was S-216 because of the high 01 in the date, but that's also found on S-221, and the leaf positions in relation to D in UNITED and O in OF confirm S-221. Too bad the fraction is not clear, but on S-221 it's often not struck up well in that area.

Again, nice find!

Best wishes,
Tom


I found my first error coin , although it is not a rarity! Thanks again for the link, Don!
 

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Re: Big Silver, Little Silver and BIG COPPER!!! 1801 Draped Bust!!!!!!!

Here are the other finds!
 

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Re: Big Silver, Little Silver and BIG COPPER!!! 1801 Draped Bust!!!!!!!

Way to go Neil. I have found many harmonica reeds myself but never one that tapered like that. Pretty cool. :thumbsup:
 

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Re: Big Silver, Little Silver and BIG COPPER!!! 1801 Draped Bust!!!!!!!

That's a pretty LC. I'd take that one over the half dollar anyday. Great find!


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Re: Big Silver, Little Silver and BIG COPPER!!! 1801 Draped Bust!!!!!!!

Love the 1801 Draped Bust cent and the harmonica reed! Those are some awesome finds! You also found silver along with your hunt! Congratulations! :thumbsup:
 

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Re: Big Silver, Little Silver and BIG COPPER!!! 1801 Draped Bust!!!!!!!

Neil, just spent a few minutes trying to attribute the variety of your 1801 Draped Bust, unfortunately it gave me some trouble, since some of the normal features needed for ID are a bit worn down, BUT, I think I can safely say from what I see, and your photos are great by the way, that your coin appears to be a Sheldon 221 variety. It is known as: The Corrected Fraction. I am not 100% sure, but from what I do see it seems to match, I am including a page from a website of a large cent collector and compare your coin with the photo.
http://www.largecents.net/collection/coinpics/s221.jpg and home page of that site is: http://www.largecents.net

I am including what the book Penny Whimsy has to say about how to attribute that variety and see if you can confirm the attribution also.

I basically narrowed it down first by where the Right Stem on the wreath points at the letter A and then the fact that the first leaf on the right inside has no stem, those two features narrowed it down considerably from the other varieties.

Some Excerpts from Penny Whimsy: The corrected error variety, The denominator of the fraction has a figure 1 engraved over the first of the three ciphers, and both the 1 and the cipher show plainly. The first inside pair of leaves on the right is stemless.

Nice going on the mixture of finds from that site and that one Harmonica reed looks like the one very large one I have found. Much bigger than a normal one.

Don
 

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Re: Big Silver, Little Silver and BIG COPPER!!! 1801 Draped Bust!!!!!!!

Congrats on the finds

Cheers!

Dugholes :laughing7:
 

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Great finds, fantastic. The detail left on the LC is amazing considering how old it is wtg :thumbsup:
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Re: Big Silver, Little Silver and BIG COPPER!!! 1801 Draped Bust!!!!!!!

Neil, you are tearing it up bro. Great Job !
 

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Re: Big Silver, Little Silver and BIG COPPER!!! 1801 Draped Bust!!!!!!!

I can't imagine how excited you must have been to see that LC. I would have been ecstatic..and you can read the date! What a great hunt..and you got some big silver too.

WTG :thumbsup:
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Re: Big Silver, Little Silver and BIG COPPER!!! 1801 Draped Bust!!!!!!!

Excellent finds as always Neil :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 

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Big silver, big copper, big day!
 

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Re: Big Silver, Little Silver and BIG COPPER!!! 1801 Draped Bust!!!!!!!

Excellent finds Neil! congrats.
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Nice find :o
 

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SWEET LOOKING DRAPED BUST. THATS INCREDIBLE.........I`LL BET THAT MADE YOUR DAY............PACO
 

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Re: Big Silver, Little Silver and BIG COPPER!!! 1801 Draped Bust!!!!!!!

Don in SJ said:
Neil, just spent a few minutes trying to attribute the variety of your 1801 Draped Bust, unfortunately it gave me some trouble, since some of the normal features needed for ID are a bit worn down, BUT, I think I can safely say from what I see, and your photos are great by the way, that your coin appears to be a Sheldon 221 variety. It is known as: The Corrected Fraction. I am not 100% sure, but from what I do see it seems to match, I am including a page from a website of a large cent collector and compare your coin with the photo.
http://www.largecents.net/collection/coinpics/s221.jpg and home page of that site is: http://www.largecents.net

I am including what the book Penny Whimsy has to say about how to attribute that variety and see if you can confirm the attribution also.

I basically narrowed it down first by where the Right Stem on the wreath points at the letter A and then the fact that the first leaf on the right inside has no stem, those two features narrowed it down considerably from the other varieties.

Some Excerpts from Penny Whimsy: The corrected error variety, The denominator of the fraction has a figure 1 engraved over the first of the three ciphers, and both the 1 and the cipher show plainly. The first inside pair of leaves on the right is stemless.

Nice going on the mixture of finds from that site and that one Harmonica reed looks like the one very large one I have found. Much bigger than a normal one.

Don

Don,

Thanks for the info on the LC. I agree with you on the S221, as the stem and the inner leaf seem to be a match, but without being able to see the first digit of the denominator, I can't be sure. I have tried viewing it under many different lighting conditions and may never be able to tell. This variety is listed by http://coinfacts.com as "scarce", while the Red Book lists it as having the same value as the common varieties.
 

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Re: Big Silver, Little Silver and BIG COPPER!!! 1801 Draped Bust!!!!!!!

Great finds Neil :thumbsup:--That LC is a beauty
 

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Re: Big Silver, Little Silver and BIG COPPER!!! 1801 Draped Bust!!!!!!!

Neil, just remember, Red Book is just a rough guide, they for the most part never list all the known varieties of a coin and generalize the information. I believe there are 14-15 known varieties of the 1801, varying from Very Common to just a few known, which equals big spread in value if coin was in decent shape, and those rare varieties for the 1801 are not even mentioned in Red Book.

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Good stuff :)

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