Anyone know what these letters stand for on this pin...? UPDATE Pic of back

[DPBOB]

Any help would be appreciated.....Thanks.......
It's about the size of a penny
The back is a screw type ( complete )

 

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[Bigcypresshunter]

I cant believe we cant find more on the Jewel Emblem company in Chicago.

 

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[SODABOTTLEBOB]

[/quote] What are we looking for? It looks like a LV to me.


Check out the link I posted. That's all I have to go on at the moment.

I'm referring to the ACS monogram reference at the top of the page, and to the similarity of the star-shaped motifs on the wallet/coin purse itself.

From web page >> ACS Monogram Snapped Billfold & Coin Purse M61652

Does anyone know what the ACS means in this case?

http://www.bagwow.com/monogram-snapped-billfold-coin-purse-m61652-Designer-2583.html

Here they are together;

Thanks

SDBB

 

[72cheyenne]

Gettin closer.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/aanewzealand/3093701240/

 

[intimer]

72 cheyenne------that's amazing......i repeat!!!!

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

I realize that!

I'm just trying to shed light on the fact that ACS has different meanings!

At this point we're not even sure that ACS is the right combination of letters!

Please forgive me for suggesting that I may not be the only one out on a limb here!

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I think Cheyenne is on a Yahoo image search that I am not familiar with but his search key words appear to be "ACS badge". So yes many ACS logos will appear. But if its not an antique looking logo, its no use posting it. We could post a million pictures. I believe we can safely say that this monogram looks mid to late 19th century up until early 20th. The "Jewel Emblem" company of Chicago was in business at least until 1926, if my eBay link is the same company. This is not a modern emblem pin. Its at least 75 years old.

 

[intimer]

found this on a site: http://www.abbreviations.com/acronyms/MUSEUMS/2

ASC Adventure Science Center
SAC Sussex Archaeological Collections

and found these on this site: http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/abbreviations.htm

ACS is an abbreviation for American Chemical Society
ACS is an abbreviation for American College of Surgeons
ACS is an abbreviation for Association of Commonwealth Students
ACS is an abbreviation for Additional Curates' Society
ACS is an abbreviation for Automobil Club der Schweiz

ASC is an abbreviation for Army Service Corps
ASC is an abbreviation for Accredited Standards Committee

CAS is an abbreviation for Chinese Academy of Sciences

CSA is an abbreviation for Confederate States of America
CSA is an abbreviation for Celestial Sensor Assembly
CSA is an abbreviation for Computer Sciences of Australia

SAC is an abbreviation for Strategic Air Command
SAC is an abbreviation for Senate Appropriations Committee
SAC is an abbreviation for Spin Axis Controller
SAC is an abbreviation for Sun Angle Counter

SCA is an abbreviation for Schipperke Club of America
SCA is an abbreviation for Science Clubs of America
SCA is an abbreviation for Screen Composers Association
SCA is an abbreviation for Senior Citizens of America
SCA is an abbreviation for Shipbuilders Council of America
SCA is an abbreviation for Society of Consumer Affairs
SCA is an abbreviation for Speech Communication Association
SCA is an abbreviation for Stock Company Association
SCA is an abbreviation for Suez Canal Authority
SCA is an abbreviation for Switzerland Cheese Association
SCA is an abbreviation for Synagogue Council of America

i'm on my way out the door. i deleted a bunch because of subject matter compared to age of pin.

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

I thought I better report in. I didn't want anyone thinking I fell out of my tree... well, not yet anyway. I'm still hanging in there! And if any of you are blurry eyed like me and have run out of letter combinations to research, try these. I just stumbled onto them but don't have the time to investigate right now. Maybe a wild goose chase, and maybe not.


CSA = Cub Scouts of America

MCS = Michigan Central Station ... Detroit

(There I go throwing that "M" in there again!)

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I thought I better report in. I didn't want anyone thinking I fell out of my tree... well, not yet anyway. I'm still hanging in there! And if any of you are blurry eyed like me and have run out of letter combinations to research, try these. I just stumbled onto them but don't have the time to investigate right now. Maybe a wild goose chase, and maybe not.


CSA = Cub Scouts of America

MCS = Michigan Central Station ... Detroit

(There I go throwing that "M" in there again!)

Its good to see you are still searching. Check them out to see if they had old monogram logos.

 

[DPBOB]

I'll delete this if/when someone would be so kind as to answer it.

Is it just me, or did the pages on this topic all of a sudden get super wide?

The other Tnet pages are fine and standard size.

I don't recall doing anything to cause it. Any suggestions or "fix it" tips?



Thanks.

Bob

They were for me too...now there normal
Control - will make it smaller
or
Control + will make it bigger

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Someone that posted has a large screen.

 

[DPBOB]

I thought I better report in. I didn't want anyone thinking I fell out of my tree... well, not yet anyway. I'm still hanging in there! And if any of you are blurry eyed like me and have run out of letter combinations to research, try these. I just stumbled onto them but don't have the time to investigate right now. Maybe a wild goose chase, and maybe not.


CSA = Cub Scouts of America

MCS = Michigan Central Station ... Detroit

(There I go throwing that "M" in there again!)

CSA = Cub Scout of America

Pins is too old it would say BSA for Boy Scouts of America.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

I cant believe they dont have the American Cancer Society on the ACS list. http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/N1ADD.HTM

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

You're probably right ... the Cub Scouts didn't offically start until around 1930.

I'm just fishing, and keep changing bait to see if I can get any bites.

Thanks.

SDBB

P.S. My page is still "huge," and have tried without success to reduce it.
But thanks for the suggestion anyway. I guess I'll just have to live with it.

 

[Lowbatts]

Screw back should make it a hat or collar pin but does not exclude any of a lot of applications. Saddle tag, maybe on the handguard of an old gun?

Letters seem discernable enough, having a star motif lends itself ot the notion of some LEO consideration. Perhaps detective agency of which there were many during the most likely period of this pins manufacture.

Simple answer, item is a unique piece, perhaps part of a set made for an individual of means as this was not uncommon in the same era. Here's a shot of my gold watch chain with the picture box that has the individuals initials on it. It came with the 1887 gold turnip watch he recieved, yeah it's mine now!

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

Thanks Lowbatts : Interesting information.

(If your handle suggest "low batteries," I can relate to that!)

If I may be so bold as to suggest what we really need here is an "EXPERT" familiar with how to properly read script of this sort. I know there is a basic formula of some kind, but personally don't have a clue what it is. I even Googled it under "Writing Experts" kind of stuff, but as yet haven't found anything substantial enough to report. If we could just nail down the proper lettering sequence, someone would likely identify it lickity-split! The only thing that comes to my mind is that an old-timer antique dealer told me once that they are read from the top down. Yah, right! And where is he now when I need him most?

Is there a doctor ... er, I mean a Reading and Writing expert in the house?

SDBB

 

[Breezie]

I'm not a writing expert, but I do know in USA, we read from #1 Left to Right, then #2 Top to Bottom, BUT when you have a club pin, neither has to apply. In monograming, the larger letter is generally the last name, and it is placed in the middle; ie. John K. Doe jDk BUT, if the monogram letter are all the same size, it reads from left to right . . .BUT, again, in the case of a 'club' pin, there is not necessarily any rhyme or reason. Until somebody finds the exact pin, I'm going with Pi Mu Computer Science club.Breezie

 

[SODABOTTLEBOB]

I promise this is the last one today unless I find something solid!

I totally respect, thank, and understand Breezie's point about there possibly being no rhyme or reason to it, but just for the heck of it I'm delving into ...

Top to Bottom (based on lower left stacking) = ACS

If you never hear from me again with something "concrete," then you'll know what I found!

Thanks to all.

Bob

P.S. I'm beginning to think I'm the only one on this topic anymore, and that the rest of you have moved on to greener pastures!

 

[Bramblefind]

Google Books -

Patterson's American educational directory, Volume 29 (Google says this is 1922 but the cover page looks to read 1932)

Also a restricted book:

Official gazette of the United States Patent Office, Volume 345 1926
http://books.google.com/books?lr=&c...blem"+chicago&q="jewel+emblem"+#search_anchor

Jewel Emblem Mfg Co., Chicago Ill. Class pins and finger rings, emblems, lodge pins etc. 212,019 (??) Apr 20

I haven't had much luck so far in searching the patents for any additional info.

There are a few other references in Google books -i.e. that they made some items for the American Veterinary Medical Association and for the American Society of Municipal Engineers etc.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Great work. Some more clues for SodaBob.

How do you copy that page, if you dont mind me asking?

I think we can date this in the 1920's to early 30's.