🥇 BANNER Back in the Game - 1875-CC Twenty-Cent Piece!

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Although I had been out detecting often enough, my finds so far this year had come slowly - a trickle off several corroded coppers over the past few months and a worn-out Barber dime. One of the coppers found a few weeks ago was particularly bittersweet; it was a 1795 or 1797 Liberty Cap half cent with lettered edging. Sorry - I didn’t have the heart to post it. Mother Nature and long exposure to New England’s acidic soil had done its worst to Ms. Liberty. Despite my best hopes, the corrosion was too much. :sad1:

On my last outing, I made one stop at an old mill site that offered nothing but a lamp top and hunks of ferrous material. I left after an hour or so. Lately, I’ve had some difficulty in scouting for new promising sites, but the sparse finds at the mill prompted me to try for new prospects. Back in 2017, I had recovered a rare Native American pewter trade pipe from the 17th century in a wooded area that surrounded a later-period barn site. Sadly, much of the area had been recently lost to a new residential development, :sadsmiley: but an adjacent property looked equally promising. I had stopped by several weeks before to enquire about permission, but had to follow-up for a definitive answer. I felt some reluctance as I knocked on the front door owing to my appearance after digging earlier in the damp thickets surrounding the mill site. Covered in dirt, I only needed an orange jumpsuit and the sound of approaching bloodhounds to present the perfect image of an escaped convict. Happily, the property owners remembered my prior visit and were very welcoming. They kindly gave me permission and wished me luck. :sunny:

I wasn’t expecting much in my search. I was just happy to be searching near the approximate area where I had recovered the pewter trade pipe two years earlier. After recovering only one plain button after a half-hour or so, I dug for a signal near an intersection of stone walls. Surprisingly, a Victorian-Period cufflink with gold gilt and a glass stone came out of the hole. It was missing its clasp end, but I soon found that as well only 12” away.

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Instinctively, I searched further around the immediate area and came upon a solid signal (90 on the Deus) just a few feet away. I cut out a thick plug and pinpointed a clump of soil that produced a large silver coin. It had been a while since I’ve seen anything like that! I glanced at the dirt covered coin and could see a Seated Liberty figure. I was very happy having recovered my third Liberty Seated quarter in 30 years of detecting – or so I thought. I went on searching and recovered a 19th century tractor part, i.e., an ox shoe, an odd round disc of brittle pewter, and little else worth mentioning. The property owners were wonderful. I showed them what I had recovered and was invited into their home – straight to the kitchen sink to rinse the Liberty Seated quarter for a better look. I could barely discern the apparent date of 1875 on the coin. I was kindly invited to return another day to search further.

Upon returning home, I delayed examining the coin until I could do so with my 10-year-old son Matthew. When the time came, I grabbed a lamp and magnifying glass and explained to him the particulars of identifying old US coins. I verified that the date was 1875 and looked for the all-important mint mark, which was CC for Carson City, Nevada. I suggested that my son look for the mint mark as well by looking beneath the eagle on the coin’s reverse. Now I’m the king of wishful thinking :icon_king:, and I thought that the size of the coin looked a bit off. I had one or two fleeting thoughts of a 20-cent piece when first recovered but dismissed such notions as nothing more than a wishful thinking. Oblivious to the odd appearance of the eagle, (I think I was quite tired by the end of the day), I pointed out to my son that the mint mark was above the “cents” located near the coin’s rim – “CENTS” on a supposed “QUAR. DOL.” coin. I finally got it when I saw “TWENTY.” :idea1: I said to my son, “Oh my god, this coin is a twenty-cent piece!” My son replied in disappointment, “Wait a minute - this coin is only worth 20-cents?” :icon_scratch: I explained that it was the coin’s face value and then showed him its collector value in an old copy of Red Book.

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I didn’t hesitate at cleaning the coin with a brief cook of electrolysis – 30 seconds on each side of the coin and an extra 30 seconds on the coin’s reverse. I was very happy with the results and the coin’s overall appearance – no significant scratches or dings and just enough “LIBERTY” visible on the shield.

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The twenty-cent piece coin was only minted for circulation for two years – 1875 & 1876; it’s the shortest lived denomination of all US coins. A few hundred were minted as proof coins in 1877 & 1878. The coins quickly became unpopular with the public, as the coin was easily confused with the quarter due to its identical liberty image and similar size, and I totally agree. It fooled me for a while, and I couldn’t be happier to have been mistaken! So I didn’t find my third Liberty Seated quarter in 30 years of detecting, but that’s fine by me. :icon_thumleft:

Good Hunting!
 

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Congrats. My BANNER vote is in also.I believe I have only seen 2 or 3 posted in my 11 yrs. on here.

Mike - Thanks for the banner vote. I believe your right on past postings of the twenty-cent piece on T-Net. I used the search engine and could only find three examples previously posted on Today's Finds, but I also learned something from one of the old threads. While the "LIBERTY" on seated halves, quarters, dimes, and half-dimes are incused, the twenty-cent piece has raised lettering for "LIBERTY." The grading standards are thus set on a different bar for the twenty-cent piece. A condition of fine for wear on "LIBERTY" for the other coins equates to very fine condition on the twenty-cent piece.
 

that Twenty is a TEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:notworthy::icon_thumleft::icon_thumright::treasurechest:
 

That's a great find! Beautiful coin! You have a new go-to site there.
 

Congrats on finding that rare piece of American silver. That's banner for sure :occasion14:
 

Wow! That is the first time I’ve seen a 20 Center posted. Incredible coin, definitely banner. Congrats!!

Thanks for the banner nod. I have to say that the treatment of both your Nova Constellatio and GWI button is top notch. Hard to get a copper with so much eye appeal, and the contrast of patina and gold gilt on the GWI is killer.
 

That is a most remarkable find STC! I don't recall seeing a 20 c piece posted in a long time and this one is in great shape. Your post was also a very enjoyable read. Congrats all around, and I would also suggest to the Powers That Be that this is clearly BANNER worthy! Well done!
 

That is a most remarkable find STC! I don't recall seeing a 20 c piece posted in a long time and this one is in great shape. Your post was also a very enjoyable read. Congrats all around, and I would also suggest to the Powers That Be that this is clearly BANNER worthy! Well done!

Silvermonkey - Thanks for the banner suggestion. Eastern MA? Are you on the North Shore or in southeast MA?
 

AMAZING! Never seen one posted before, banner-worthy (my vote is in) and HUGE Congrats. BTW- Another Mass find???

-- Jeff --
 

AMAZING! Never seen one posted before, banner-worthy (my vote is in) and HUGE Congrats. BTW- Another Mass find???

-- Jeff --

Jeff - Thank you for the banner vote. I got the coin in South County, Rhode Island. It was found only 200' or so from where I recovered a 17th Century Narragansett Indian trade pipe made from pewter. The same area also offered up a Narragansett animal effigy - a duck shaped out of lead. I'm looking forward to returning to the site as its offered up three noteworthy finds ranging from the mid-1600s up to the 1870s with little trash beyond shotgun shells. Surprisingly, there are foundations for two barns but not cellar holes, and maps going back to the 1870's show no apparent dwellings. If I find nothing else on the site, it's all good. It's already paid out plenty. :)
 

I voted banner as well :icon_thumright:
 

That is my absolute, number one with a bullet, bucket list coin. More than any gold coin. Congrats on an amazing coin and this gets a banner vote from the south coast of Mass.
 

That is my absolute, number one with a bullet, bucket list coin. More than any gold coin. Congrats on an amazing coin and this gets a banner vote from the south coast of Mass.

Hello neighbor and thanks for the banner vote. Almost 1:00 a.m. here on the East Coast, and we're both posting on T-Net. We're hardcore! :headbang:
 

I love it!!!!! :thumbsup:
 

Jeff - Thank you for the banner vote. I got the coin in South County, Rhode Island. It was found only 200' or so from where I recovered a 17th Century Narragansett Indian trade pipe made from pewter. The same area also offered up a Narragansett animal effigy - a duck shaped out of lead. I'm looking forward to returning to the site as its offered up three noteworthy finds ranging from the mid-1600s up to the 1870s with little trash beyond shotgun shells. Surprisingly, there are foundations for two barns but not cellar holes, and maps going back to the 1870's show no apparent dwellings. If I find nothing else on the site, it's all good. It's already paid out plenty. :)

I hunt in RI a lot as well- lived in FR/NB for 50 years- awesome locations and Congrats on the 5 Banner finds- Continued Success my friend. BTW, your avatar- check out my banner find!
 

Beautiful rare coin!! I'll trade you a silver 3cent for her :thumbsup: Banner!!
 

WOW! Based on what I see, looks like we have us a $900.00 coin :laughing7: Just think, if you wanted to, 20 cents could buy you an Equinox 800...
 

Beautiful rare coin!! I'll trade you a silver 3cent for her :thumbsup: Banner!!

If that 3-cent piece is dated 1873, we're in business. I'll take that deal. If not, I'll stay with the 20-cent piece. :laughing7:
 

WOW! Based on what I see, looks like we have us a $900.00 coin :laughing7: Just think, if you wanted to, 20 cents could buy you an Equinox 800...

I keep hearing about the Nox. My buddy bought a Nox even though he already has a Deus. One for each arm? ??? I think the Deus exceeds all in target separation, but I've heard the Nox goes way deep.
 

I hunt in RI a lot as well- lived in FR/NB for 50 years- awesome locations and Congrats on the 5 Banner finds- Continued Success my friend. BTW, your avatar- check out my banner find!

Jeff - I was admiring your banner find just last night. That recovery of Mass Silver is testimony to your detecting skills. I've had the good fortune of searching a few standing early 18th century homes. I've pulled a shoe buckle and some coppers over the years but nothing close to 17th century, as I think most of its there but just a bit too deep. Your Mass Silver is an incredible coin & and incredible recovery. May I ask what became of the coin? Mass Silver is the ultimate for detecting in New England. My last two Mass Silver was a clipped piece of shilling and a holed two-pence. Still hoping for another whole coin sooner or later. Speaking of avatars, check out the photo below. I found it about 30 years ago at the beach, which I don't hunt so much anymore; I just love the old stuff. I scraped most of the jewelry finds years ago (helped pay for a detecting trip to England), but I didn't want to part with this one find. 8-)

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