Legend vs Realitiy

that's the same thing I was thinking, just do it and get it over with .

I am curious about the type of bow you use.
And are there still Apache looking to guard the areas you travel.
Also, does anyone know anything of Waltz's education and life in Germany.
You think you could find five or six people you could trust once you all were looking at the LDM?
 

Black knight 2 ..the day I blinded I was hitting from 65 yards ,I shot 32 1/2 inch aluminum arrow with solid broad heads ,drop away rest . that's what broke ,it got caught in string and came back and hit me in temple at 235 FPS, just stun me and made a welt on the skin did not bleed so I just tried to walk it off ...when they realized how bad it was the next morning they put matches over my eyes for 30 days ..the shock wave cut nerve ends from one side of my brain to the other side .. thousand of damaged nerve endings .. my left eye was bleeding in side the eye and behind it ..I cried blood for 3 months ...the skull pain started and lasted 2 1/2 years still have some at times ...yes the apache will always protect their holly places ...I think waltz was street smart he knew how to make a claim and file it ..IMHO he could both read and write ...and spoke at least 3 languages.....
 

Sorry you had to go through all that BB
 

Sorry you had to go through all that BB
no learn from it as I went , it was the hard road but you have to learn from the way you are tested ..one my 14 year old son was shooting targets with me when it happened .. second they teach everyone to turn your head away from the bow when you hear something go wrong in this rare case it was the worst thing I could have done .. so not always what they teach is true ... some cases just never got that memo !and I did back and win the largest 7 point taken in the Walmart big buck contest .. 223 lbs hanging weigh . I hunted for 4 more years and then stopped hunting and have not hunted for many years now ..out of about 12 people that hunted in our group I was the last to stop hunting ...but learn what the difference between a good bow hunter is and what a great bow hunter is ,,do you all know what the difference is ...I saw two of the largest deer I have ever seen and I never got a shot off at ether of them .. but I had a great respect for the game I hunted and refused to take a bad shot and wound any deer or game ,if you don't have a clear shot that you know you can make don't let it fly ... ...that's what makes the best hunters IMHO . life goes on ...how did I get the nick name . my cousin is full blooded Mohawk and he called me Blind feather when I was just a kid growing up we played in the wood behind his house ...my hunting friends knew it and called me the Blindbowman when I was Blind I would go out and shot targets from sun rise to well into the dark ..when the sun went down I didn't know it ,and in the dark all you hear was me cutting the target up shot after shot . I had a 10 by 10 back drop wood wall behind my targets at first I wasted a few arrows after a few days I wasted none ...I took a fish line and starched it between my target and my shooting distance .after I faced off the correct direction the rest was all locked in my head a reflect of the mind and body ...I could still shoot my bow blindfolded from 45 yards away ...I sold the bow and never shot again ...my cousin Cook is one of the chef of the Mohawk nation ,they call him a pure blood Mohawk ...his mother remarried to my uncle Bob the man my first name was named after !me and my cousin spend many great times playing in the wild and it helped me be who I am today ...
 

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back to the quadrangle and the Peralta camp site .. if you realize by now I was correct the if you draw a line between Weaver's Needle and then you translate the symbolic placer map you realize the that quadrangle 76% of mile from the center point on that line that is 1.12 % of the total distance between the two main points . this means the tunnel is 1/2 mile up the canyon and is in fact south of the center point , remember when the Peralta camp was said to be 1/2 mile from the mine . that's funny that's right where I found it ...as far as I know the Jesuit treasure is still in the tunnel ...it was in 1959...see I think the Apache played a far greater part in this then most of you are aware of . see the Jesuit put the treasure in the tunnel then the Apache brake up the group of Jesuit and kill them off in small groups and cover over the tunnel area hoping to hide the treasure for latter use ...the Jesuit could have hide it and covered it over like that but I don't think they broke up into smaller groups and killed them self ..or destroyed their own church ...
 

I do know where it is . but I can not walk good enough to get to it right now .. I will soon ...I hope
 

I do know where it is . but I can not walk good enough to get to it right now .. I will soon ...I hope

What sort of knee problems you got?
The English longbow, called a warbow back then, had 140 pound draw weight at least. Meant to pierce armor or knock a man down.
 

What sort of knee problems you got?
The English longbow, called a warbow back then, had 140 pound draw weight at least. Meant to pierce armor or knock a man down.
the avg weight draw of a new compound is 65 lbs I like the 80 lb draw weight most can not fire at 80 lbs but in modern compounds they have a let off and if you set in a tree stand for hours in the bitter cold your chances go way down of bulling the bow back to full draw ...I will give you a good example of this my oldest brother made a bow in wood shop in high school it hade 125 pound pull to full draw . it took 3 years to locate a string that would fit the bow and the kept shattering the arrows when ever they hit the targets ,these are just a few of the reasons very few long bow are modern fiber class bow construction... so no very few bows were ever made for 140 lb draw ... am I saying that it is imposable to shot a 140 lb target bow . no .. they are far and few between .. for show more then hunting ...the for years broke string after string till a master bow maker told them what was wrong, the bow string had to be custom made for that bow .he made two strings for the bow and it never broke the first string ,the last I knew my brother sold the bow to a big game hunter and he was shooting world class elk ..that was more then 35 years ago where it is today I have no idea ...conditioning your arms to a 140 lb bow is crazy ....your fingers would need special training ...
 

as for my knee :MRI found 1.) small tear of the horn of the medial Meniscus. 2.)Moderate Osteoarthritis 3.) moderate to severe soft tissue edema as described above . 4.)small joint effusion . my son is a therapy doctor and if I ask him what this means I will never hear the end of it ... so it is what it is ...
 

I wanted to add something to some search I have been doing on quartz crystal development in fault lines in the superstition mountains .one of my fathers theories was the to isolate what made the LDM vane different from other mines .. and I believe I have found out why .. as most know there are a sequence of fault lines that run threw the superstition mountains .for the most part those fault line span a close range of a given time line ... but what IMHO is the LDM vane , it is a much older fault line and dose not reflect the same details as the other fault lines do ... what did my research yield , its a theory but its has evidence that shows it may be true .. with these older vanes that showed up in the older fault lines I found the only way I could track the vanes of these older vault lines was to track the quartz types that show up with the mineral...so I am not tracking the gold . I am in fact tracking the quartz types ...
 

I found in this research that when twy different time line faults are in the same area they do not track the same direction because the source that created the two fault lines came from different direction and the two fault line react to cause and effect ,. thus they don't track the same direction they reflect their own source ...most of the mountain development and structure in the superstitions track N by S ..but the older fault line tracks SW BY NE.
 

in fact I find my true interest in this theory more amazing then the LDM it self ...from what I have learn in my research the there is in fact a wider section of the vane that no one found ...if I was to make a guess as to what it is .. I would say its 25 to 30 inches tall by 5 or 6 ft wide by 25 to 45 ft long ...when compared to the LDM .I see the LDM as 18 inches tall at its peak and 3-5 ft wide By 20-45 ft long ,we know from some of the details of the LDM legend that the Hoya it self was a blow out this means it was running in a clear crystal quartz ,we can not say for a fact that its not a vent blow out .. but we can say at the peak or near the peak it moved a large area when it blew out ..I see this vane much like a bull wipe vane . hard core handle and the vane snaps up and down as its goes along the fault line ...some of the peaks and lows of the vane have been found ...some have not yet been discovered ...I think the ore ratio will prove it is part of the same LDM vane but that section of the isolated peak will exceed the value of the LDM ore by 20-35 % in over all value .IMHO
 

here is another part of that theory I was working on and researching .. do you know what makes clear quartz or milking quartz or pink or rose quartz ...? you know how they heat rubies to infuse them .. I think in many ways this is just what happen in this old fault line .. the stream and gases released super heated the quartz as it developed near the surface opening and blow out of those gases and steam made changes in the quartz , in fact we see the same effect in diamonds ...and other gem stones ...
 

when I refer to the handle of the bull wipe effect . this means the volcanic vent comes to the surface but dose not reach the surface and runs into the older fault line and thus heat and pressure force the metal and liquid quartz and other minerals along the fault line when I say the two fault line run in different directions . this could be caused by different effects . one would be the Earth flipping on its axis ...the other could be as simple as a large asteroid hit of the earth's surface that causes the fault line to go apposing the normal rotation of the Earth's motion ...in some way of these or even a event we don't know about could have caused this effect ...
 

when I refer to the handle of the bull wipe effect . this means the volcanic vent comes to the surface but dose not reach the surface and runs into the older fault line and thus heat and pressure force the metal and liquid quartz and other minerals along the fault line when I say the two fault line run in different directions . this could be caused by different effects . one would be the Earth flipping on its axis ...the other could be as simple as a large asteroid hit of the earth's surface that causes the fault line to go apposing the normal rotation of the Earth's motion ...in some way of these or even a event we don't know about could have caused this effect ...

Fascinating stuff.
So I searched for fault lines in Arizona, but I am not a geologist. Anyway, I ran across this term Ma.
As in "Most volcanic rocks are 20-30 Ma in southeastern Arizona..."
Can't find out what means.
I understood a great deal of what you are saying here.
For what it is worth. Someone with a background in geology could probably make hay out of it.
 

Ma stands for mega-annum, or a million years.
 

just because you believe dose not make it so ...so when someone say they never found anything out there ...who really knows ...lol
 

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