Mysterious Tin Coin - part of Templar legacy?

[vastik]

Please go to my website to view this amazing coin. If you can offer any assistance in identifying its origins, I would be most grateful.

www.mysterycoin.com

 

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[vastik]

This pice is approximately 28mm in circumference. I don't know how thick, as I don't have it with me.

 

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[Mackaydon]

Canadian two dollar coin, commonly called Toonie (and similar spellings):
Mass 7.3 g
Diameter 28 mm
Thickness 1.8 mm

 

[scratcher]

Canadian two dollar coin, commonly called Toonie (and similar spellings):
Mass 7.3 g
Diameter 28 mm
Thickness 1.8 mm

I think he meant diameter......
This is what I am trying to get across. Tin is way less dense than coin metal. It would have to be about 2.8mm thick if the supplied info from earlier in the thread is correct, or about 56% thicker than a walking liberty half.

 

[johnnyi]

Scratcher, I think he said that he doesn't know how thick it is. When he responded to size he was apparently talking about only the diameter. Too bad though that it took so long to get this information.

 

[vastik]

Scratcher, I think he said that he doesn't know how thick it is. When he responded to size he was apparently talking about only the diameter. Too bad though that it took so long to get this information.

Yup, until now, nobody thought to ask.

 

[Silver Searcher]

Scratcher, I think he said that he doesn't know how thick it is. When he responded to size he was apparently talking about only the diameter. Too bad though that it took so long to get this information.

Yup, until now, nobody thought to ask.

Vastic

this is why I asked for the weight on page one, it seemed to me that your item looked as though it could be Silver and now the diameter of 28mm, it sounds very heavy for Tin

I believe what you are saying but is there any chance that it isn't Tin 28mm sounds a good size for a Coin or Token

SS

 

[scratcher]

Scratcher, I think he said that he doesn't know how thick it is. When he responded to size he was apparently talking about only the diameter. Too bad though that it took so long to get this information.

I realize this johnnyi. I'm telling you how thick it would have to be if the information supplied by vastic is correct. If it is 28mm diameter, weighs 8 grams as stated earlier, is made from tin, then it has to be approx. 2.8mm thick. I'll bore you with the math if you want........

 

[johnnyi]

"I realize this johnnyi. I'm telling you how thick it would have to be if the information supplied by vastic is correct. If it is 28mm diameter, weighs 8grams as stated earlier, then it has to be approx. 2.8mm. I'll bore you with the math if you want........"

I'm sorry scratcher, I didn't realize until ss mentioned it that vastik had already given the weight. Yes, you're right, if what we are told is correct.

 

[vastik]

Okay everyone, these stats are copied and pasted off the actual metallurgy reports.

Let me know your thoughts.


Area 1 Face of coin
Spectrum processing :
No peaks omitted

Processing option : All elements analyzed (Normalised)
Number of iterations = 1

Standard :
Cu Cu 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM
In InAs 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM
Sn Sn 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM

Element Weight% Atomic%

Cu K 2.02 3.71
In L 1.17 1.19
Sn L 96.81 95.10

Totals 100.00

Area 2 Face:
Element Weight% Atomic%

Cu K 2.08 3.81
In L 1.42 1.44
Sn L 96.50 94.74

Totals 100.00

Area 3 Face:
Spectrum processing :
No peaks omitted

Processing option : All elements analyzed (Normalised)
Number of iterations = 2

Standard :
Si SiO2 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM
P GaP 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM
S FeS2 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM
Cl NaCl 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM
Ca Wollastonite 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM
Cu Cu 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM
In InAs 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM
Sn Sn 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM

Element Weight% Atomic%

Si K 0.97 2.27
P K 0.83 1.76
S K 9.09 18.64
Cl K 1.84 3.42
Ca K 2.14 3.51
Cu K 48.28 49.92
In L 4.78 2.74
Sn L 32.06 17.75

Totals 100.00

Area on Back:
Spectrum processing :
No peaks omitted

Processing option : All elements analyzed (Normalised)
Number of iterations = 1

Standard :
Cu Cu 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM
Sn Sn 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM

Element Weight% Atomic%

Cu K 1.82 3.34
Sn L 98.18 96.66

Totals 100.00

Area on Back that is scratched:
Spectrum processing :
No peaks omitted

Processing option : All elements analyzed (Normalised)
Number of iterations = 1

Standard :
Cu Cu 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM
Sn Sn 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM

Element Weight% Atomic%

Cu K 0.58 1.07
Sn L 99.42 98.93

Totals 100.00

Area of residue on back:
Spectrum processing :
No peaks omitted

Processing option : All elements analyzed (Normalised)
Number of iterations = 3

Standard :
C CaCO3 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM
O CaCO3 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM
Na Jadeite 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM
S FeS2 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM
Ca Wollastonite 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM
Cu Cu 1-Jun-1999 12:00 AM

Element Weight% Atomic%

C K 63.10 75.73
O K 19.65 17.70
Na K 2.49 1.56
S K 2.31 1.04
Ca K 8.61 3.10
Cu K 3.84 0.87

Totals 100.00

 

[johnnyi]

Thank you SWR. You beat me to it. "Area of residue on back"

 

[Silver Searcher]

Thank you SWR. You beat me to it. "Area of residue on back"

So residue is Adhesive/glue/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residue can't see that here

SS

 

[vastik]

I really don't know what the June 1999 date is, but the owner of the coin had these reports done this past summer. He has only had the coin for less than 2 years.

Has anyone actually looked up the symbols on the report to identify what the residue is?
SWR and Johhnyi, I'm counting on you two for this.

 

[johnnyi]

"It was more than likely glued/cemented/epoxied to a porcelain/ceramic holder of some nature, and pried out"

Yes SWR, although the information had to be "pried out", we have eventually learned that the university did specifically see residue on the back. As you stated, Jadeite is a substance used in porcelain and ceramics and is one of the different components of the residue. The guess of this being pried off of a more expensive liquer bottle become that much more probable now, but perhaps we should also consider jams and jellies in our search?

 

[vastik]

I'm thinking that it came off of a jar of jam that was stolen from the Masons by the Illuminati, who gave it to the Rosicrucians, but it was eaten by a Jesuit priest, who had infiltrated the Rosicrucian order to find out the secret ingredient of their jam recipe!

 

[Silver Searcher]

I'm thinking that it came off of a jar of jam that was stolen from the Masons by the Illuminati, who gave it to the Rosicrucians, but it was eaten by a Jesuit priest, who had infiltrated the Rosicrucian order to find out the secret ingredient of their jam recipe!

Don't forget the wine

SS

 

[vastik]

I'm thinking that it came off of a jar of jam that was stolen from the Masons by the Illuminati, who gave it to the Rosicrucians, but it was eaten by a Jesuit priest, who had infiltrated the Rosicrucian order to find out the secret ingredient of their jam recipe!

Don't forget the wine

SS

Oh ya! I forgot! The Jesuit priest drank the wine after he ate the jam.

 

[johnnyi]

Ha ha! Yes vastik, you have silver searcher convinced this is real. We all know that. If you want us to help you, part of that is acknowledgng that there is residue, and explaining what use it might have had.

You made a statement vastik, "I've been looking this piece over and there is definitely no glue residue on it." You continued making the same statement over and over.
Now we suddenly learn that the very University which you proclaimed was the last word, has told us about the "Area of residue on back" which they clearly saw, an area which you denied even existed, despite being privy to the report days ago!

I don't expect you to explain that, as your modus operandi so far has been to weave and bob, laugh gayly, be slow in revealing information unless pressed for it (such as the size) , and of course accuse the entire forum on occasion of "not having lives" when they do make attempts to research your object with results that don't match your theories.

If I stumble upon the item your little relic belonged to I will be sure to post it for you, as I'm sure other members who've already been wise enough to leave would do also, whether it be the Sword of Damacles or the insert to a jar of Trapest preserves.

 

[IronSpike]

It could also be a beer stein medallion.

 

[vastik]

OOOOh, me bad

Sorry Johhnyi, I have to laugh. Don't forget that the elements mentioned are also used to make molds. The "residue" could be from a mold. In person it looks flat, like an original part of the coin. If the "coin" was produced in a mold, then the "residue" would likely be melted onto it.
And the whole jam idea, well, it deserves a laugh.

 

[Mackaydon]

Calcium carbonate (CaCO3, as mentioned in the report) is an ingredient in cement. It's also used in a wide range of trade and adhesives, sealants, and decorating fillers. Perhaps this has already been mentioned.