OMG! I found another Victorian British Officers Martingale Today!

[ANTIQUARIAN]

I still can't believe another one of these turned up at an 1840 farmhouse I was hunting today! One of my customers recently told me that his parents had moved to a retirement home and I could detect their property prior to it being sold. Well you don't need to tell me twice, so today I headed over there for a 3hr hunt and found yet another Victorian British Officers Martingale! When I cut the plug and saw the edge of the plate all I could think was, "nobody's going to believe me"! I found it out near the barn behind the farmhouse. The front and side yards of this site had few decent targets to dig. The yard to the east recently had the tall grass cut so swinging was difficult there. Most of the finds came at the back of the house, which as we all know is unusual. I was disappointed that I only found one penny dated 1940 and that was it! The soil here was very clean and loamy at the front and sides, so everything must be deep. I've taken pics with the martingale I found in August for comparison.

The badge I found today is thinner, 6mm shorter and about 3mm narrower. The condition isn't too bad, but I'm considering tumbling it to help improve its complexion, let me know your thoughts regarding to tumble or not.

Thanks for looking and best of luck,
Dave

PS. Oh yeah, I also found a small silver-plated pin and an interesting looking brass buckle!

 

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[Steve in PA]

Wow Dave! You are accumulating quite a collection of those! Great finds. I would hunt that lot to death!

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Wow Dave! You are accumulating quite a collection of those! Great finds. I would hunt that lot to death!

Thanks very much Steve!
I'm going to try and get back next week.

Dave

 

[Garrett424]

Awesome finds.
You just keep finding more and more great stuff.

 

[ColonialDude]

I actually think that's a badge/plate vice a martingale. It's pressed brass correct?

 

[CoinandRelicMan]

Nice hunting place there !!

 

[BuckleBoy]

Nice plate/badge! I agree with Colonialdude on the ID.

Cheers,

Buck

 

[Old Dude]

If this turns out to be a badge/plate, I think that is even cooler Dave because you now have a set. Don't know what you'd have to find to get the complete set ( maybe that hat pin you thought the original was ), but you now have a goal to obtain! I found my first or second oldest coin of 2014 at a friend's parents' house too. We have to hunt every site we get permission.....the occasional big surprise is worth it.

 

[ANTIQUARIAN]

Awesome finds.

You just keep finding more and more great stuff.

Thanks for your post and your kind words Bob!
Best of luck to you,
Dave

I actually think that's a badge/plate vice a martingale. It's pressed brass correct?

I would say, yes it's 'pressed' as opposed to 'cast' brass. The brass is thick, but not as thick as on the first martingale plate.
I'll have to research this more ... thanks for your suggestion W!
Dave

Nice hunting place there !!

Thanks bud, just a little disappointed I didn't find more there!
Dave

Nice plate/badge! I agree with Colonialdude on the ID.

Cheers,

Buck

Thanks for your help with the ID on this piece Buck!
You guys definitely have more experience with this type of relic then I do!

Best of luck to you my friend,
Dave

If this turns out to be a badge/plate, I think that is even cooler Dave because you now have a set. Don't know what you'd have to find to get the complete set ( maybe that hat pin you thought the original was ), but you now have a goal to obtain! I found my first or second oldest coin of 2014 at a friend's parents' house too. We have to hunt every site we get permission.....the occasional big surprise is worth it.

Thanks very much for your input and your post!
You're right Dave, I was hoping the first one I found in August was a hat badge.
I was thinking that this had to have the same function, but it seems less sturdy than the first one.

I felt this one might be later in date, because of the obvious difference in how it was made.
Here are a couple of additional pics for comparison.
Dave

 

[pepperj]

Simply put-WOW! Congrats on the latest version of the badge/plate. This is a perfect example of finding something that one would least expect to find at a farm and close to the first banner find, this is what makes the hobby so great-one just never knows. I'd put the vote in on this one but your already sitting up there...

 

[johnnyblaze]

When it rains it pours Dave

Nice shape also congrats man..

~Blaze

 

[I-DIG-IT]

Nice digs.

 

[Ahab8]

Wow Dave that's amazing! I'll tip back a Sea Dog IPA to that one lol. Since the Dog is only 2 minutes from my house. And trust me my friend nobody would question the validity of one of your finds. It's pretty easy to tell who's genuine on here and who's....well you know what I'm saying. You're one of the good ones bud who always has great posts and I can always feel your passion and excitement. I'd be nervous tumbling any good find but I've never done it before so you'd know better than me. Congrats

 

[ironhorse]

I guess lightening can strike the same place twice!
You're making it look easy finding those!

 

[Iron Patch]

Strange... something you never expect to find once, and now have done it twice, but that`s detecting for you.

If you tumble that it will most definitely not make it better, far worse in fact. It would be the equivalent of taking baking soda to a Spanish reale.

 

[Carolina Tom]

Wow... to find two of them is just spectacular. Congrats!

 

[SilverDreams]

Congrats on the nice find!

 

[Zodiacdiverdave]

Awesome find Dave, do you have an 1812 setting on your detector to find these?
Is this place very close to where you found the Martingale? You could have stumbled onto an old camp or battle field.
ZDD

 

[romeo-1]

Awesome! I just got back from Ontario (Toronto) on business and I was debating on taking an extra day for detecting...really wishing I had now...

 

[Davers]

Don't know anything about them , but Congratz on another awesome Find.

Did you "Tumble" the first one?

Davers