SLAVE COLLAR ?

[mojjax]

I WAS HELPINE MY NEIGHBOR TEAR DOWN HIS OLD BARN UP HERE IN MAINE AND WE FOUND THIS OLD LEATHER COLLAR IN A CRAWL SPACE UNDER SOME FLOOR BOARDS . THE BRASS TAG SAYS : JAMES N. O. BOE
B . 1815
IT SEEMS ODD THAT A FAMILY PET WOULD HAVE SUCH A LONG NAME AND A BORN DATE ON ITS COLLAR . IT'S RATHER SMALL , INSIDE DIAMETER IS 4 1/4 INCHES . THE BUCKLE HAS A ''RING '' HASP WHERE A SMALL PADLOCK MAY HAVE BEEN . THE RING SHOWS LOTS OF WEAR . ANY IDEAS??

 

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[weldermark]

that is a very interesting piece to say the least,hope you find out it's purpose.



mark

 

[jeff of pa]

could be an Ankle Tag,,,,,,,,,, slave or Prisoner. if thats a date of birth, I'd say more likely slave

 

[JARMAN]

THATS ONE INT,FIND MOJJAX,I dont think I could sleep not knowing more abought it if it was mine.GOOD LUCK and be sure to update us.HH

 

[rck_1]

Id`e say, take it to the local museum and see if someone can identify it.

 

[karajo]

WOW that is VERY cool nice find Congratsa to you!
-kara

 

[Siegfried Schlagrule]

name was probably the owner of the critter. Check property lists to see if that guy owned the place in the past and get a date that way. exanimo, ss

 

[MiddenMonster]

could be an Ankle Tag,,,,,,,,,, slave or Prisoner. if thats a date of birth, I'd say more likely slave

Question is, would the births of slaves, especially in 1815, been something that was normally recorded?

 

[jeff of pa]

I don't know for shure on births. I know age & Name were reported to Sensus takers in PA
an example www.afrolumens.org/slavery/gjowner.html
maby something like this in your area, could prove or disprove.

 

[downindixie]

Look at the size of this collar.Dogs have always had more than one name for people of wealth.I had one male poodle who's name was pappy jay babo Houston and the female name was Meme amour Houston.4 1/4' is very small and would not fit on a persons neck.

 

[Darren in NC]

Shackles for slaves were never made from leather. Research slave antiques and you'll see they were typically made of metal.

Looks like a an old dog collar. Long names were typical of high-dollar purebreeds.

 

[Cladius]

Looks way too fancy to have been on a slave. I would go with the treasured hound also.

 

[E59]

Very very cool. Whatever it is, every treasure hunter would be happy to find it.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

Is it coincidence, Mojjax, that this was found in Maine and there was a James N.O. Boe that died in 1948 mentioned in this Supreme Court of Maine probate court ruling? http://me.findacase.com/research/wfrmDocViewer.aspx/xq/fac.\ME\1951\19510618_0040029.ME.htm/qx

 

[Iron Patch]

Must have been a trusting slave with only that little ring holding him.

 

[jeff of pa]

Is it coincidence, Mojjax, that this was found in Maine and there was a James N.O. Boe that died in 1948 mentioned in this Supreme Court of Maine probate court ruling? http://me.findacase.com/research/wfrmDocViewer.aspx/xq/fac.\ME\1951\19510618_0040029.ME.htm/qx

Born 1815

Died 1948

definately not the same person
but it could be a relative.

Or some type of Fantasy Piece he Owned

 

[stefen]

A sure way to find out if the collor was used for a dog or a man...since its leather, have a scraping analysised for DNA...

Sweat from a man and dead skin particles would adhere or penetrate the leather...

All WAGS would go to the wayside...

 

[jeff of pa]

the Bowe 's BOE's Bow's

Also appear to Come from Ireland

So My guess he wasn't a Slave

http://genforum.genealogy.com/ireland/messages/67531.html

and although I Found
James Boe - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1816 Borris, Carlow, Ireland
James is a Common name

 

[Iron Patch]

the Bowe 's BOE's Bow's

Also appear to Come from Ireland

So My guess he wasn't a Slave

http://genforum.genealogy.com/ireland/messages/67531.html

and although I Found
James Boe - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: About 1816 Borris, Carlow, Ireland
James is a Common name

Ain't nothing wrong with a good Catholic slave. I wonder if there would be shamrocks on the slave tags.

 

[Bigcypresshunter]

A sure way to find out if the collor was used for a dog or a man...since its leather, have a scraping analysised for DNA...

All WAGS would go to the wayside...

And how much does a DNA analysis cost?