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The Treasure of Captain William Kidd.

George Edmunds did not correspond or meet with Hubert Palmer; Harold T. Wilkins did. The simple way to confirm who is correct in terms of the Kidd-Palmer map discoveries (their sequence, who found them, etc), is to see what Palmer himself said. G. J. Bath has published Palmer's written correspondence with Wilkins. Those private letters prove Wilkins [1935] is correct and Edmunds [1996] (who uncritically copied Howlett [1958]) got most wrong, although I am not saying Edmunds should be ignored; on the contrary, he has done a decent amount of research and his book contains useful information despite errors. That is all there is to this but for some bizarre reason you resorted to discussing Wilkins UFO/Atlantis books. They have no relevance. Wilkins was wrong in his belief the charts are authentic pirate maps. I have never taken his claims about the authenticity of the maps seriously; he is only reliable in regards to the sequence of their discovery, who found them and some other relevant details corroborated by Palmer. It is actually yourself who holds Wilkins crank viewpoint the Kidd-Palmer maps are genuine Captain Kidd maps. No scholar has ever supported that notion to best of my knowledge and it has been discredited (proof has already been posted here but you ignored it... something akin to true believer syndrome?).

Can you name a single scholar who believes the Kidd-Palmer maps are authentic Captain Kidd/pirate maps? ::)
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Oak Island Sage
 
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Oak Island Sage
Quote, 'Wilkins was wrong in his belief the charts are authentic pirate treasure maps.' It's been a long while since reading them, but I don't recall anywhere in Wilkin's books a statement from him declaring the charts are genuine. He discussed them a lot with his own comments. So if you don't believe them genuine, who do you think drew them? where do you think the lat and long numbers came from? There's only one answer!
 
Quote, 'Wilkins was wrong in his belief the charts are authentic pirate treasure maps.' It's been a long while since reading them, but I don't recall anywhere in Wilkin's books a statement from him declaring the charts are genuine. He discussed them a lot with his own comments. So if you don't believe them genuine, who do you think drew them? where do you think the lat and long numbers came from? There's only one answer!
Hi CapnGeorge, I don't expect you will believe me but I will say this to those who think I am what the Americans call - the real deal, but who arrived late at this honest nest.
In my view the China Sea map was drawn by Captain Kidd or perhaps his quarter master John Ware, I sincerely believe that it is genuine and that it does contain some vital clues that many have tried in vain to find. This map definitely depicts the place on Oak Island that was the anchorage used by arriving treasure laden ships. A long row of boulders that once formed the base of a secret jetty is still there in Joudary Cove. Captain Kidd's ship the Adventure Prize anchored there in 1699 with the combined treasure that both he and his secret partner Captain Henry Every had separately captured. They were not the only ones to bring treasure to Oak Island for storage or to be melted down and converted in coinage, it could well include that of the Knights Templar.
Because Captain Kidd had carved on a rummer "plan of the island from John's rough map" it suggest that John Ware was recruited on board Captain Kidd's ship there to eventually lead the privateer to the Joudary Cove anchorage of Oak Island.
I will put the vital missing pieces to the Oak Island jigsaw puzzle in the public domain, that is providing the present treasure hunters of Cerca Trova decide to except my free offer of help. At the moment I am considered to be superfluous to requirements and I'm almost eighty six, when I go it's game over and ttttthat's all folks.:wave:

Oak Island Sage
 
Captain Kidd's ship the Adventure Prize anchored there in 1699 with the combined treasure that both he and his secret partner Captain Henry Every had separately captured.
You do know that the Adventure Prize/QM has been found more or less where Kidd left heir in Catalina Island? He continued north with the sloop St. Antonio - there is absolutely no way the QM could ever have visited Oak Island!

Also we try to do some serious research here, If you have found any document indicating a cooperation of Kidd and Every then please link it here.
 
You do know that the Adventure Prize/QM has been found more or less where Kidd left heir in Catalina Island? He continued north with the sloop St. Antonio - there is absolutely no way the QM could ever have visited Oak Island!

Also we try to do some serious research here, If you have found any document indicating a cooperation of Kidd and Every then please link it here.
Just because you personally haven't found what you want don't order me to enlighten or educate you. It was me personally who first told Paul Hawkins about the rare piece of evidence I found that suggest the connection between Captain Kidd and Captain Henry Every.
You said quote: "there is absolutely no way the QM could ever have visited Oak Island" please produce conclusive evidence to support your 'serious' statement.
Captain Kidd renamed the ship "Adventure Prize" and the Deadman Island Map indicates this and the fact that he successfully sailed the ship to the Joudary Cove anchorage.
I fully acknowledge and admire the serious work done by serious researchers and writers on this website, but even those people are not always in full agreement.
The bottom line is do you or anyone else know where the treasure is located, have you been offered a great deal of money to help the current searchers on Oak Island to find and retrieve it, no? well I have, I guess that proves that someone is taking me serious wouldn't you say.
This year the team have opted to concentrate on searching in the Money Area and that will fail - again. If Rick (and the fellowship of the dig) wish to except my free offer of help they have a 95% chance of bringing their quest to a successful conclusion. In that event I will invite my critics to (as Homer Simpson aptly put it) - eat my shorts.😄

Oak Island Sage
 
Hi CapnGeorge, I don't expect you will believe me but I will say this to those who think I am what the Americans call - the real deal, but who arrived late at this honest nest.
In my view the China Sea map was drawn by Captain Kidd or perhaps his quarter master John Ware, I sincerely believe that it is genuine and that it does contain some vital clues that many have tried in vain to find. This map definitely depicts the place on Oak Island that was the anchorage used by arriving treasure laden ships. A long row of boulders that once formed the base of a secret jetty is still there in Joudary Cove. Captain Kidd's ship the Adventure Prize anchored there in 1699 with the combined treasure that both he and his secret partner Captain Henry Every had separately captured. They were not the only ones to bring treasure to Oak Island for storage or to be melted down and converted in coinage, it could well include that of the Knights Templar.
Because Captain Kidd had carved on a rummer "plan of the island from John's rough map" it suggest that John Ware was recruited on board Captain Kidd's ship there to eventually lead the privateer to the Joudary Cove anchorage of Oak Island.
I will put the vital missing pieces to the Oak Island jigsaw puzzle in the public domain, that is providing the present treasure hunters of Cerca Trova decide to except my free offer of help. At the moment I am considered to be superfluous to requirements and I'm almost eighty six, when I go it's game over and ttttthat's all folks.:wave:

Oak Island Sage
Your thoughts that you are entitled to, but you didn't answer the question; where do you think those particular lat and long figures came from? By the way, the 'rough' map was 'from John s, not John W, and it shows a lagoon. I don't think there are any lagoons on Oak Island. Pirates, traditionally did not bury treasure more that 10ft deep. If there was any to be found on the island, the Laguna brothers would have found it by now. I carried out a lot of research on Oak Island, years ago for my book. There is no record of Kidd going there, only a story from his cabin boy Richard Barlycorn, who was put ashore in the area, and the story handed down.
 
There is a claim that the Quedagh Merchant (1698–1699): Kidd captured this Armenian ship filled with cargo (satins, muslins, gold, and silver) in 1698. After his crew largely abandoned him, Kidd renamed it the Adventure Prize. He left it in a lagoon on Santa Catalina to sail to New York on a smaller ship to clear his name, mistakenly believing the ship would be safe. Quedagh Merchant is all testimonies never went anywhere near the United States or Canada.

Captain Kidd’s most famous ship, the Quedagh Merchant, was abandoned in 1699 in the Caribbean, where its wreckage was discovered in 2007 just 70 feet off the coast of Catalina Island in the Dominican Republic. The vessel was found in shallow, 10-foot-deep water, with cannons and anchor remnants present. I have not seen the thesis on the identification of the wreck. As it is very hard to identify vessels. Wreckage Discovery: The remains of the Quedagh Merchant off Catalina Island were investigated by Indiana University archaeologists and dedicated as a "Living Museum of the Sea" in 2011

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Kidd claimed to his jailer that he had left treasure in St Thomas and Curacao. See the document below. Part of the Earl of Bellomont's letter discussing Captain Kidd's treasure (TNA, CO 5/1043). The National Archives, London, UK

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Crow
 
Here is Captain William Kidd's memorandum of treasure left on Gardiner's Island. Date: 4 September 1699 Reference: CO 5/860 (65xx)

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Crow
 
Deposition of Robert Livingston testified. Knows no further of any concealment, embezzlement, or disposal made by Kidd, his company, or associates of any goods, gold, money, or treasure whatsoever.

Robert Livingston the Elder (1654–1728) was a key financier, business partner, and political partner
of Captain William Kidd, initiating the 1696 Adventure Galley expedition to hunt pirates. Livingston introduced Kidd to high-ranking English investors to fund the venture, but later feared implication when Kidd was accused of piracy, ultimately aiding in his capture.

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You can see Robert Livingston agreement below.

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Articles of Agreemt. made this seaventh day of February 1695/6 between Robert Livingston Esqr. & Capt. Williame Kidd of the one part & Richard Blackham of the other part.

1st. The said Robert Livingston & Capt. William Kidd do joyntly & sevally agree with the said Richard Blackham, that in case the said Capt. Kidd do not meet with the Pirates, which went from new England Rode Island, New Yorke & Elsewhere, or do not take from any of the pyrates or from any the Kings Enemyes such goods mchandizes or any things of value as being devided as mentoned in Articles between the said Robert Livingston & Capt. William Kidd of the one part & Richard Earle of Bellomont on the other part bearing Date the 10th day of October 1695 shall fully recompense the said Richard Blackham for the money by him expended in buying the said one fifteenth part of the sd. Ship & primisses that thou they shall refund & repay to ye sd. Richard Blackham ye whole money by him to be advanced in Sterling money or money Equivalent thereunto on or before the 25th. day of March wch shall be in the year of our Lord 1697 ye dangers of the seas & of the Enemy & mortality of the sd. Capt. Kidd allways excepted, upon paymt whereof ye said Robt. Livingston & Wm. Kidd are to have the sole pperty in ye sd. Ship & furniture & this Indenture to be delivered up to them wth all other Covents & obligations thereunto belonging.

Sealed & delivered Robt. Livingston &
In the p[re]sence of us. Wm Kidd

Samll. Spiser
Richd. Raper
John Wallis


Crow
 
Examination of Andrios Henlyne and others concerning Kidd's ship Date: 1699 Reference: CO 5/860 (64ix)

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Confirms what Kidd said to the gaoler. In part, Kidd claimed to his jailer that he had left treasure in St Thomas and Curacao. See the document below. Part of the Earl of Bellomont's letter discussing Captain Kidd's treasure (TNA, CO 5/1043). The National Archives, London, UK

Crow
 
Examination of Edward Davis Date: 1699 Reference: CO 5/860 (64xvi) Creator: Colonial Office, Commonwealth and Foreign and Commonwealth Offices, Empire Marketing Board, and related bodies Catalogue context: Correspondence, original - Board of Trade. Categories: Overseas; Piracy Subjects: Captain William Kidd;

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As you can see, the Quedagh Merchant (Hispaniola, Dominican Republic) then sailed his sloop, the Antonio to New York. Interestingly, a chest was buried by the pirate Jame Guilliam in Delaware Bay, which sometimes gets falsely claimed to be Kidd's. "Jame Guilliam" was the alias used by the notorious pirate James Kelly (or Kelley), who was transported to England and tried alongside Captain William Kidd. Kelly was found guilty of piracy and executed by hanging at Execution Dock in London on July 12, 1701, approximately two months after Kidd's execution on May 23, 1701. Sailing with Kidd: James Kelly joined Captain Kidd on his return voyage to North America from Madagascar in 1699. Kelly (using the name Gilliam) departed from Kidd in Delaware, taking his treasure ashore.

But that is not where Quedagh Merchant parted with the sloop Antonio. The Quedagh Merchant was left at the island of Mona off Hispaniola. Did the crew bury the remaining treasure on Mona before scuttling the Quedagh Merchant at Catalina Island, Dominica?

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Kidd only took his captain's share, hence the treasure recovered later on Gardiner Island. So any notion that Kidd sailed or took treasure to Oak Island is pure fantasy.


Crow
 
Your thoughts that you are entitled to, but you didn't answer the question; where do you think those particular lat and long figures came from? By the way, the 'rough' map was 'from John s, not John W, and it shows a lagoon. I don't think there are any lagoons on Oak Island. Pirates, traditionally did not bury treasure more that 10ft deep. If there was any to be found on the island, the Laguna brothers would have found it by now. I carried out a lot of research on Oak Island, years ago for my book. There is no record of Kidd going there, only a story from his cabin boy Richard Barlycorn, who was put ashore in the area, and the story handed down.
I will answer your questions honestly CG but if you disagree with my findings then that's your prerogative. The Lat and Long figures for the location, and the title China Sea map, and references to coral reefs are all deliberate misleading fabrications drawn by either Kidd or Ware.
On the rummer Kidd carved John s rough plan but he didn't use an apostrophe. I don't know the finale resting place of the Adventure Prize but that location does not alter the fact that it was once sailed by Captain Kidd to the secret anchorage in Joudary Cove. This place is shown on both the China Sea Map and the Deadman Island map. There are clues on several maps but you have to possess intuitive perception to find them and geometric patterns won't cut it.
I have never said that Captain Kidd buried treasure on Oak Island, he took a massive treasure (mostly Captain Every's) there, and other men took it down into the mine for storage. This was done via the "Loading Shaft" then through the long "Access Tunnel" to the "Repository" see the CAD. All the books, records and old sworn statements out there in the world will not change one basic fact, without my help the treasure of Oak Island will probably never be found and recovered.
Oak Island Sage.
 
Examination of Edward Davis Date: 1699 Reference: CO 5/860 (64xvi) Creator: Colonial Office, Commonwealth and Foreign and Commonwealth Offices, Empire Marketing Board, and related bodies Catalogue context: Correspondence, original - Board of Trade. Categories: Overseas; Piracy Subjects: Captain William Kidd;

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As you can see, the Quedagh Merchant (Hispaniola, Dominican Republic) then sailed his sloop, the Antonio to New York. Interestingly, a chest was buried by the pirate Jame Guilliam in Delaware Bay, which sometimes gets falsely claimed to be Kidd's. "Jame Guilliam" was the alias used by the notorious pirate James Kelly (or Kelley), who was transported to England and tried alongside Captain William Kidd. Kelly was found guilty of piracy and executed by hanging at Execution Dock in London on July 12, 1701, approximately two months after Kidd's execution on May 23, 1701. Sailing with Kidd: James Kelly joined Captain Kidd on his return voyage to North America from Madagascar in 1699. Kelly (using the name Gilliam) departed from Kidd in Delaware, taking his treasure ashore.

But that is not where Quedagh Merchant parted with the sloop Antonio. The Quedagh Merchant was left at the island of Mona off Hispaniola. Did the crew bury the remaining treasure on Mona before scuttling the Quedagh Merchant at Catalina Island, Dominica?

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Kidd only took his captain's share, hence the treasure recovered later on Gardiner Island. So any notion that Kidd sailed or took treasure to Oak Island is pure fantasy.


Crow
Hi Crow, you are clearly a good researcher but why not at least try to read between the lines, Kidd had to die as a scape goat to protect his VIP sponsors. Nobody wanted to share his fate so it was wise not to support him, to mention seeing the French Passes was to invite dire consequences. The official records say the Adventure Prize or QM was burnt at Mona, but was the court being lied to by frightened men , I believe the Deadman Island map shows the real truth, I wish you could see that.

Oak Island Sage.
 
Hi Crow, you are clearly a good researcher but why not at least try to read between the lines, Kidd had to die as a scape goat to protect his VIP sponsors. Nobody wanted to share his fate so it was wise not to support him, to mention seeing the French Passes was to invite dire consequences. The official records say the Adventure Prize or QM was burnt at Mona, but was the court being lied to by frightened men , I believe the Deadman Island map shows the real truth, I wish you could see that.

Oak Island Sage.
Crow is usually on the money. So I wouldn’t discount him so hastily.

That being said I believe Kidd took the best of the treasures from the QM and took them into his captains quarters which he most likely squirreled away.

I’m kind of tired of people making out Kidd to be some sort of stooge. I think he was a very calculating character that was smarter than most think. NYC in the 1600s and 1700s was no walk in the park.
 
Did you ever bother to read the real documents? Quedagh Merchant was sunk at Catalina Island, Dominica, not at Mona. On the contrary, reading between the lines is not a fact. Only your cognitive speculation. Many people come on their high horse that they have solved a treasure to Treasure-net with their pet theories based on sheer speculation. Expecting adulation. While there is no shame in having a go. I admire anyone for having a go. There is shame in the lacking of the ability to see errors in their own assumptions and argue with everyone. over and over after being proven incorrect.

So you have based your entire hypothesis on assumptions that the Deadman's map being real. a promotional treasure map which might as well been on the back of a cereal packet.

The map was a marketing creation in 1946.

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It was created in 1946, and the artist placed a copyright.

Copyright 1946.

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The map was created by

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The current owner of Bell Food Group is primarily the founding Bell family, who maintain majority control. This ownership structure profoundly influences the company's corporate governance and long-term strategic direction. The Bell family holds a 50.1% controlling stake via Bell AG. It was an invention as a promotional product. So a map created in 1946 does not constitute evidence to base a theory on.

Bocaj asked a legitimate question: Also, we try to do some serious research here. If you have found any document indicating a cooperation of Kidd and Every then please link it here. ( It would be fantastic if you could provide documentary evidence. Evidently, you do not. Other than your reading between the lines and guessing? )

You reflected the question back on Bocaj and resorted to asking for proof, then incorporated a reply in childish "eat my shorts." I gave you proof of fate of the Quedagh Merchant that never went to Oak Island you asked Bocaj for, and the facts from multiple witnesses who were there some had no connection to actual piracy event other being passengers. Yet, in your ego-centricity, you brush aside debunking and ignore facts that do not fit your pet theory, this is reflective of narcissistic and egocentric personality trait. You have not provided any credible evidence to support your claims, and so your claims have little credibility. This is proven time and time again by many people. The sad thing about all of this is that you cannot see this, or want to, as your ego will not accept this. You will argue this to your grave.

No one doubts your enthusiasm but blind dismissive ignorance of facts because it does not fit your confirmational bias is sheer folly.





Crow
 
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Did you ever bother to read the real documents? Quedagh Merchant was sunk at Catalina Island, Dominica, not at Mona. On the contrary, reading between the lines is not a fact. Only your cognitive speculation. Many people come on their high horse that they have solved a treasure to Treasure-net with their pet theories based on sheer speculation. Expecting adulation. While there is no shame in having a go. I admire anyone for having a go. There is shame in the lacking of the ability to see errors in their own assumptions and argue with everyone. over and over after being proven incorrect.

So you have based your entire hypothesis on assumptions that the Deadman's map being real. a promotional treasure map which might as well been on the back of a cereal packet.

The map was a marketing creation in 1946.

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It was created in 1946, and the artist placed a copyright.

Copyright 1946.

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The map was created by

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The current owner of Bell Food Group is primarily the founding Bell family, who maintain majority control. This ownership structure profoundly influences the company's corporate governance and long-term strategic direction. The Bell family holds a 50.1% controlling stake via Bell AG. It was an invention as a promotional product. So a map created in 1946 does not constitute evidence to base a theory on.

Bocaj asked a legitimate question: Also, we try to do some serious research here. If you have found any document indicating a cooperation of Kidd and Every then please link it here. ( It would be fantastic if you could provide documentary evidence. Evidently, you do not. Other than your reading between the lines and guessing? )

You reflected the question back on Bocaj and resorted to asking for proof, then incorporated a reply in childish "eat my shorts." I gave you proof of fate of the Quedagh Merchant that never went to Oak Island you asked Bocaj for, and the facts from multiple witnesses who were there some had no connection to actual piracy event other being passengers. Yet, in your ego-centricity, you brush aside debunking and ignore facts that do not fit your pet theory, this is reflective of narcissistic and egocentric personality trait. You have not provided any credible evidence to support your claims, and so your claims have little credibility. This is proven time and time again by many people. The sad thing about all of this is that you cannot see this, or want to, as your ego will not accept this. You will argue this to your grave.

No one doubts your enthusiasm but blind dismissive ignorance of facts because it does not fit your confirmational bias is sheer folly.





Crow
Hi Crow, I appear to have misjudged you as much as you have misjudged me. I have recently offered Rick Lagina to help the with their search for nothing, no reward no percentage zero, and definitely no publicity, that rather challenges your description of me being egocentric and mercenary wouldn't you say.
When I previously posted on the old Oak Island Treasure forum in 2004 my topic entitled Oak Island Relations received over two hundred and fifty thousand viewing hits, I often made this point clear back then that "I don't ask anyone to believe my theories only to remember who told everyone - first with no charge".
Just like you Paul Hawkins once challenged my theories and he always demanded proof (that he could plagiarise), I refused to comply and then I retaliated, I pointed out to him the many flaws in his own theories and when I in turn demanded proof of his theories, he left without a reply in around 2004.
Will I hand on a plate the real secrets of Oak Island to anyone who makes disparaging remarks about me, I don't think so. Crow you and your 'serious discussion' friends of a feather who flock together don't need me all. You just carry on with your self appreciation society looking at old records and patting each other on the back but when it come right down to the nitty gritty what have you got? zilch is what you've got.
Where the Adventure Prize actually ended her days is totally irrelevant, did she once conveyed treasure to the Jetty in Joudary Cove? now that is the burning question. And I have not received any conclusive proof that the Deadman Island map does not depict Oak Island, and I have not been informed of any current hand writing expert who will publicly declare now that the hand writing and signature on it is or is not that of Captain William Kidd. If you disagree and insist that it is a fake or that it depicts another island then please produce your absolutely indisputable, unassailable, and undeniable evidence to support your declaration.
If the treasure of Oak Island is ever recovered it will exclusively be down to my free offer of help. The confidential information that I can contribute is exclusively reserved for the Oak Island searchers, not for the benefit of any writers who might merely be fishing for new information to prop up their next book.
Oak Island Sage
 
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Your reply confirms everything I said about you.

You make big, bold claims, procrastinate, and are quite happy to reveal the location of the treasure at Oak Island to the world, yet when you were asked a legitimate question about what evidence you have that Captain Kidd and Avery were colluding, you evade and take offense. Why is that? That's what ego-eccentrics do. Especially when you've written a book, so there's no need to be secretive anymore about the evidence that led you to the conclusion that Captain Kidd and Avery were colluding? Here is your moment to shine, and yet we get evasive silence.

Not answering the question says it all about your credibility.

Crow
 
Your reply confirms everything I said about you.

You make big, bold claims, procrastinate, and are quite happy to reveal the location of the treasure at Oak Island to the world, yet when you were asked a legitimate question about what evidence you have that Captain Kidd and Avery were colluding, you evade and take offense. Why is that? That's what ego-eccentrics do. Especially when you've written a book, so there's no need to be secretive anymore about the evidence that led you to the conclusion that Captain Kidd and Avery were colluding? Here is your moment to shine, and yet we get evasive silence.

Not answering the question says it all about your credibility.

Crow
Yes Crow and I am seeing you in your true colours now, for all your postulating and admirable research you are just another sad frustrated person looking for information you cannot find yourself. I only take offence when my integrity is questioned or when I am insulted, ego-eccentric? maybe you should not judge other people by your own character traits.
You want the possible secret link between Captain William Kidd and Captain Henry Every, I once revealed that to Paul Hawkings and from that day on it became his revelation, as the saying goes "once bitten - twice shy".
Hey! you're the hot shot researcher on this website, so if (as you inferred) a mere an ego -eccentric old guy from England can find the rare link it should be a breeze for you right. :laughing7: good luck on that.

I don't have to enhance my credibility because I have many supporters who fully agree with me. All I have ever asked was not to be believed, but that in the future people remembered that I told them about the revelations first and that if I was right on the money, it would demonstrate my credibility for all time. Let's be clear on this Crow, if my help is sought by the current searchers and we locate the treasure, then my Oak Island treasure revelations will necessitate changes in maritime history.

I am supremely confident that the Deadman Island Map was drawn by Captain Kidd and it does depict Oak Island, but apparently you don't agree. Why not check it out again but this time from my viewpoint, and maybe you might have your own chance to shine, or alternatively why not just quit while I'm ahead 😉
Oak Island Sage
Sagacious as ever was shipmates.
 
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I have no iron in the fire on the topic, other than finding primary sources to help people with their research on the topic. Nothing personal, I am just calling a spade a spade. You ignore original documents and accept fake documents as evidence. Make big claims, yet when asked by others, you dodge the question. I did not ask the question Bocaj did. Dodging the question and saying, " Eat my shorts! Is no more damning endorsement of your credibility.

Crow
 
Here are articles of agreement for Privateer Adventure Galley. I have broken the document up into three sections to make it easier to read.

Captain William Kidd's articles of the Adventure galley, drawn up in New York, via Joseph Palmer. Date: 1701 Reference: HCA 1/15/8 Creator: High Court of Admiralty and colonial Vice-Admiralty courts

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The great irony they had a better welfare plan than many modern-day employers. :tongue3:

Crow
 

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