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Your reply confirms everything I said about you.

You make big, bold claims, procrastinate, and are quite happy to reveal the location of the treasure at Oak Island to the world, yet when you were asked a legitimate question about what evidence you have that Captain Kidd and Avery were colluding, you evade and take offense. Why is that? That's what ego-eccentrics do. Especially when you've written a book, so there's no need to be secretive anymore about the evidence that led you to the conclusion that Captain Kidd and Avery were colluding? Here is your moment to shine, and yet we get evasive silence.

Not answering the question says it all about your credibility.

Crow

Crow:

As usual, your extensive knowledge of the past easily debunks fiction posted here.

I've put oak island sage and other shysters on my ignore list so that I don't have to waste time skipping their ridiculous fiction to get to informative posts such as yours.
 
Yes Crow and I am seeing you in your true colours now, for all your postulating and admirable research you are just another sad frustrated person looking for information you cannot find yourself. I only take offence when my integrity is questioned or when I am insulted, ego-eccentric? maybe you should not judge other people by your own character traits.
Sage, I gotta say, you sure know how to make friends. Let's compare... Crow has been on TNet for over 20 years, providing solid, historically rooted references and evidences, and pushing back on nonsensical or unsubstantiated tales. He's widely regarded as a solid straight-shooter here. You have been here 3 months, and so far all you've done is spun a wild tale of a vast subterranean tunnel system under OI, full of treasures cached under a collaboration of Kidd and Avery, with the only supporting evidence being your belief that a fake map isn't fake. And a flat-out refusal to provide any other evidence because the skeptics here might be Bad People, or something to that effect.

Personally, I have no doubt that you believe in what you espouse. I've been around enough dowsers and other Big Time Treasure Hunters to understand just how compelling delusional thinking can be and how it can take you down a rabbit hole that's tough to get out of. It's not a matter of your integrity, it's simply a matter of whether you are right or wrong. And whether you can apply enough rational thinking to get you out of that rabbit hole. Most people can't; they get stuck in the hole until the day they die.

Here's my thought. If you want people to take you seriously, or at least not dismiss you out-of-hand, then lay your cards on the table. You've already stated that you're willing to do so "for the right people." So just do it. If you don't want to, and you don't want people to continue questioning or deriding your tale, then maybe this isn't the place for you. But if you continue on here with zero evidence, I suggest you invest in some skin thickener.
 
Here are articles of agreement for Privateer Adventure Galley. I have broken the document up into three sections to make it easier to read.

Captain William Kidd's articles of the Adventure galley, drawn up in New York, via Joseph Palmer. Date: 1701 Reference: HCA 1/15/8 Creator: High Court of Admiralty and colonial Vice-Admiralty courts

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The great irony they had a better welfare plan than many modern-day employers. :tongue3:

Crow
Crow, I don't ignore all original documents and old letters but sometimes officials were lied to by men fearing execution back then. The obvious fact is that some possible inaccuracies exist in old official records, and I personally keep an open mind on what I read.
You accused me of accepting what you personally perceive to be false documents and yet you are apparently free to select which ones you chose ignore or except, I think you've missed your vocation Crow, you should be a politician. 😄

I presume that you now are referring to the writing and signature of Captain Kidd on the Deadman Island map, if that is the case it's my turn to ask for clear proof of your statement that it is a fake, with specific details please.

Nothing personal Crow but I have found you to be rather dogmatic in your rigid approach to your research, you seem too ready to accept official records without question, and that suggest a lack of intuitive perception.

Now here is a challenge for you Crow, if you will pay for the services of a professional hand writing expert and if he/she states publicly that the writing was not done by Captain William Kidd then you win. In that event I will disclose the possible link between Captain William Kidd and Captain Henry Every, do we have a deal.?;D Do you want to call me or fold?

Oak Island Sage
 
This is my last reply to you Sage.

I am not playing your delusional game anymore. I am not in competition with you, nor wasting my time with your endless irrelevant claims. I have no interest in what you have to say. You are what you are, and at the grand old age 86, you will never change. You have been shown evidence multiple times contrary to your claims, but refuse to see it out of ego.

Ask yourself this. Did Captain Kidd have a time machine? You made the claim that this alleged signature of Kidd on this 1946 promotional six bells chart is Kidd's. It's your responsibility to provide evidence of your claims that it is a real Kidd signature. Not mine. Since you have not shown this nor answered Bocaj's legitimate question, You made the claim Avery and Kidd colluded to bury treasure at Oak Island. It's not on Bocaj to prove or disprove your claim. Or anyone else.

The onerous is on you to prove your claims. You will not provide evidence to support your claims. You cannot say it's a secret for a book you're writing. That you have already published. Why is that? Your response to Bocaj's legitimate question only reflects the question back onto those who question you, which clearly shows you have a messiah complex. That's what a messiah does: when confronted with a question they know they cannot answer, they reflect it back on the questioner. Or make excuses that someone will steal their work.

My guess is you have to have the last say and reflect my comments back onto me because that's how egocentrics work.

Crow
 
Crow is right, Sage. You are making the assertions that certain things happened; it is up to you to prove the validity of those assertions, not for everyone else to disprove them. Although they often have.
 
This is my last reply to you Sage.

I am not playing your delusional game anymore. I am not in competition with you, nor wasting my time with your endless irrelevant claims. I have no interest in what you have to say. You are what you are, and at the grand old age 86, you will never change. You have been shown evidence multiple times contrary to your claims, but refuse to see it out of ego.

Ask yourself this. Did Captain Kidd have a time machine? You made the claim that this alleged signature of Kidd on this 1946 promotional six bells chart is Kidd's. It's your responsibility to provide evidence of your claims that it is a real Kidd signature. Not mine. Since you have not shown this nor answered Bocaj's legitimate question, You made the claim Avery and Kidd colluded to bury treasure at Oak Island. It's not on Bocaj to prove or disprove your claim. Or anyone else.

The onerous is on you to prove your claims. You will not provide evidence to support your claims. You cannot say it's a secret for a book you're writing. That you have already published. Why is that? Your response to Bocaj's legitimate question only reflects the question back onto those who question you, which clearly shows you have a messiah complex. That's what a messiah does: when confronted with a question they know they cannot answer, they reflect it back on the questioner. Or make excuses that someone will steal their work.

My guess is you have to have the last say and reflect my comments back onto me because that's how egocentrics work.

Crow
Hi Crow, did I touch a nerve 😄 I take it the bets off then.😁

If you or anyone else don't wish to pay a hand writing expert to prove or disprove conclusively that the Deadman Island was drawn and signed by Captain Kidd that's your prerogative. Personally I believe it was drawn by Captain Kidd, and that the previous handwriting experts who were consulted by Mr Lowe Snow confirmed that.
On the right side of the Deadman Island map it shows a coast line that is actually exist, it is located several miles away across the far side of Mahone Bay, I been there in a boat. Unlike you Crow I've actually walked all across Oak Island and met the owners/treasure hunters - by invitation.
I am confident that what I have written is based on fact and logical probability. Regarding my own research, what discoveries I choose to disclose is my own prerogative, my method was simple, I looked over what was over looked.
Since my Captain Kidd and Captain Every connection theory partially hinders on the authenticity of the Deadman Island map perhaps someone should take a more detailed look at it, and get the writing examined by an expert. I don't need to do that myself because I am already persuaded. Regarding the possible link between those men , I do not I have to throw a bone to anyone. If I chose to reveal something it's because I wish to not because someone says that I have to.

Any one one who have made disparaging remarks about me like a petulant spoilt child have in fact only succeeded in doing one thing, it has caused me to continually refrain from putting the answer they desperately require in the public domain, you can all thank them for that.

Oak Island Sage
 
Yes Crow and I am seeing you in your true colours now, for all your postulating and admirable research you are just another sad frustrated person looking for information you cannot find yourself. I only take offence when my integrity is questioned or when I am insulted, ego-eccentric? maybe you should not judge other people by your own character traits.
You want the possible secret link between Captain William Kidd and Captain Henry Every, I once revealed that to Paul Hawkings and from that day on it became his revelation, as the saying goes "once bitten - twice shy".
Hey! you're the hot shot researcher on this website, so if (as you inferred) a mere an ego -eccentric old guy from England can find the rare link it should be a breeze for you right. :laughing7: good luck on that.

I don't have to enhance my credibility because I have many supporters who fully agree with me. All I have ever asked was not to be believed, but that in the future people remembered that I told them about the revelations first and that if I was right on the money, it would demonstrate my credibility for all time. Let's be clear on this Crow, if my help is sought by the current searchers and we locate the treasure, then my Oak Island treasure revelations will necessitate changes in maritime history.

I am supremely confident that the Deadman Island Map was drawn by Captain Kidd and it does depict Oak Island, but apparently you don't agree. Why not check it out again but this time from my viewpoint, and maybe you might have your own chance to shine, or alternatively why not just quit while I'm ahead 😉
Oak Island Sage
Sagacious as ever was shipmates.
I for one will not sit idly by while you attack a member, who not only has & continues to post some of the most in-depth research on this site, but also has been involved with some actual recoveries of treasure. And is a gentleman to boot.

Either share your evidence or not.

If not, don’t accuse and harangue people wantonly because they don’t believe your theory.

Understand?
 
I for one will not sit idly by while you attack a member, who not only has & continues to post some of the most in-depth research on this site, but also has been involved with some actual recoveries of treasure. And is a gentleman to boot.

Either share your evidence or not.

If not, don’t accuse and harangue people wantonly because they don’t believe your theory.

Understand?
Benny V, I have never attacked any member first or accused or harangued people wantonly, I have retaliated and that is a big difference, please get your facts about me right.
On the contrary I have praised and genuinely tried the help a few people on this website who talked to me in a friendly manner. Make no mistake about this, Benny V if anyone (a popular paragon or not) makes disparaging remarks about me I will defend myself.
I can commend your admirable support for Crow and I do not dispute that he is a popular and well respected gentleman. Crow obviously works hard on his research, but the basic fact is our opinions differ greatly, and only time will tell which of is right. I have never in my life asked anyone to believe my theories, only to remember who told them first. I have offered this year to help the present searchers on Oak Island to locate the treasure - for nothing, no charge, who do you know who would ever do that? it sort of disputes the suggestion that I am egocentric or mercenary as some people have described me.

I was warned that some members play rough on this website, never the less I came here to promote my book, and generally help the members wherever possible. If people wish to ask me something politely about Oak Island I will give my own honest opinion. When I consider the time is right for me I may even reveal the possible connection between Captain William Kidd and Captain Henry Every, it will never happen because someone demands that I should spill the beans, especially to those people who insult me, they have only in fact strengthened my resolve to stay silent.

To any of my own supporters out there I say this, please ignore the nay-sayers and be assured that the Deadman Island map was definitely drawn and signed by Captain William Kidd. He sailed the Adventure Prize (the former Quedah Merchant) on just one occasion through the dangerous route across Mahone Bay, then to moor it at the "Secret Jetty" in the more sheltered Joudary Cove. This little known anchorage is located on the north side of Oak Island, it has been depicted on other Captain Kidd maps and the row of boulders that formed the base of the mooring jetty is still there today. When Captain Kidd arrived at the repository it already contained other peoples deposited treasure, he just added his own treasure combined with that huge amount of plunder that was famously captured by his secret partner Captain Henry Every.

Oak Island Sage
 
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Benny V, I have never attacked any member first or accused or harangued people wantonly, I have retaliated and that is a big difference, please get your facts about me right.
On the contrary I have praised and genuinely tried the help a few people on this website who talked to me in a friendly manner. Make no mistake about this, Benny V if anyone (a popular paragon or not) makes disparaging remarks about me I will defend myself.
I can commend your admirable support for Crow and I do not dispute that he is a popular and well respected gentleman. Crow obviously works hard on his research, but the basic fact is our opinions differ greatly, and only time will tell which of is right. I have never in my life asked anyone to believe my theories, only to remember who told them first. I have offered this year to help the present searchers on Oak Island to locate the treasure - for nothing, no charge, who do you know who would ever do that? it sort of disputes the suggestion that I am egocentric or mercenary as some people have described me.

I was warned that some members play rough on this website, never the less I came here to promote my book, and generally help the members wherever possible. If people wish to ask me something politely about Oak Island I will give my own honest opinion. When I consider the time is right for me I may even reveal the possible connection between Captain William Kidd and Captain Henry Every, it will never happen because someone demands that I should spill the beans, especially to those people who insult me, they have only in fact strengthened my resolve to stay silent.

To any of my own supporters out there I say this, please ignore the nay-sayers and be assured that the Deadman Island map was definitely drawn and signed by Captain William Kidd. He sailed the Adventure Prize (the former Quedah Merchant) on just one occasion through the dangerous route across Mahone Bay, then to moor it at the "Secret Jetty" in the more sheltered Joudary Cove. This little known anchorage is located on the north side of Oak Island, it has been depicted on other Captain Kidd maps and the row of boulders that formed the base of the mooring jetty is still there today. When Captain Kidd arrived at the repository it already contained other peoples deposited treasure, he just added his own treasure combined with that huge amount of plunder that was famously captured by his secret partner Captain Henry Every.

Oak Island Sage
Well you are entitled to your opinion and I even share the idea (which I have published https://www.treasurenet.com/threads/did-william-kidd-find-henry-averys-treasure.709634/) of a connection between Every and Kidd.

And this is where it ends as you have contributed nothing to this discussion but personal attacks and claims you are unwilling to document (spilling the beans? - this is a forum not an AD server for books!!!)
 
Quote, 'Wilkins was wrong in his belief the charts are authentic pirate treasure maps.' It's been a long while since reading them, but I don't recall anywhere in Wilkin's books a statement from him declaring the charts are genuine. He discussed them a lot with his own comments. So if you don't believe them genuine, who do you think drew them? where do you think the lat and long numbers came from? There's only one answer!
Wilkins (Captain Kidd and His Skeleton Island, p. 326) explicitly wrote he believed the Hardy Chest and Morgan Chest (two of the maps were found in) were genuine and owned by William Kidd:

Yet there is nothing more remarkable in this strange pirate museum than the collection of genuine sea-chests of Captain William Kidd.

The chests themselves might date c. 1700 (although I have seen sources saying early-mid 18th century) but the pedigree notes that came with these chests were undoubtedly fabricated so the chests (like the bureau and workbox) were not owned by Kidd. As for the treasure maps (charts), Wilkins is pretty clear in his book he believed they were drawn by Kidd himself or a "dying buccaneer" who passed them on to him [the latter view was specifically Palmer's] (see Chapter 29: "The Skeleton Island of Captain Kidd"). Wilkins also believed that the island depicted on the maps was where "Captain William Kidd revealed he or his buccaneering friends hid their gold" (p. 353). He believed that Kidd visited the island and buried a treasure and named the island "Skeleton Island".

Also, in Wilkins' article "Map Spurs New Hunt For Kidd Treasure" (1936) he unambiguously stated "My own view is that Kidd himself drew these charts" but mentions the "collector" (i.e. Hubert Palmer) believed the charts might have been given to Kidd "by some dying pirate".

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Wilkins believed that the rummers (John S' Rough Map) were drawn by someone Kidd met:

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This is why you are wrong that Wilkins drew the maps since he sincerely believed Kidd drew the maps. Based on the private letters Wilkins sent to Palmer and other private correspondence, it is clear that Wilkins had continued to believe the maps were genuine, up to his death.
 
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In my view the China Sea map was drawn by Captain Kidd or perhaps his quarter master John Ware, I sincerely believe that it is genuine and that it does contain some vital clues that many have tried in vain to find. This map definitely depicts the place on Oak Island that was the anchorage used by arriving treasure laden ships.
I asked this same question to Randawg72 (who holds your view): can you name a single scholar or expert in cartography, paleography or maritime history who has studied or examined the map(s) and concluded the map(s) were drawn and/or owned by William Kidd? :dontknow:
 
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Randawg72, having read many of you post I thought you might like to know some of my research discoveries, they might help you with you own .

1/ Did you know that when Captain Kidd took his new the Adventure Galley for trials in the River Thames in London he failed to lower his flag in respect to the passing Royal Yacht, consequently fifty of his best prime crewmen were soon pressed into harsh navel service, the first Sea Lord, ordered the Port Admirable to ensure that they be returned. To Captain Kidd's dismay instead he unfortunately received the dregs of the Fleet as replacements, ex pirates, mutineers, pressed sea sick landlubbers, convicts. and convicted murderers as replacements.
He might have left some obscure maps hidden that were drawn out of sheer boredom, alone in his cabin for months on end. Captain Kidd had a mountain of worries and this very dangerous addition to his crew simply intensified them.

The only two maps that really matter are the China Sea Map and the Deadman Island map and both were drawn by Captain Kidd. The China Sea map has nothing drawn on the island that will lead someone to the treasure, you can ignore Lagoons, coral reefs, turtles, long and Lat, the title China Sea, the shape of the island, and even the false compass setting.

You should just concentrate on the legend, that appears to end in ends with Lib, in point of fact Kidd referred to the total amount in the repository, £16, that can only mean that combined treasure of Kidd, Every, and that of other people's is still in storage below Oak Island. This amounted to an estimated sixteen million pounds in about 1697, today it pans to over a billion pounds. The Deadmans Islands was definitely drawn and signed By Captain Kidd.

If you need more detailed information you know the best way to get it :wink: . I will answer your post Randawg72 but maybe not those of the critical gentlemen who have insulted me. The theorized link between Captain Kidd and Captain Every will not be disclosed at this time but their theorised combined treasure is I believe relevant to your topic. I am happy to share some information with you.:icon_thumright:
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So you have based your entire hypothesis on assumptions that the Deadman's map being real. a promotional treasure map which might as well been on the back of a cereal packet.

The map was a marketing creation in 1946.

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It was created in 1946, and the artist placed a copyright.

Copyright 1946.

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The current owner of Bell Food Group is primarily the founding Bell family, who maintain majority control. This ownership structure profoundly influences the company's corporate governance and long-term strategic direction. The Bell family holds a 50.1% controlling stake via Bell AG. It was an invention as a promotional product. So a map created in 1946 does not constitute evidence to base a theory on.
In the 1940s, H. P. Hood and Sons Dairy sponsored a radio station show that aired on WNAC (Boston) called "Six Bells" narrated by Edward Rowe Snow. This is why they created that map. It was an embellishment of another map (in the possession of Snow that he probably mentioned on the radio). The original map was not named Deadman's Island and did not have the Jolly Roger. The original more simple map can be found in LIFE magazine (21 July 1952) and a better quality image can be found in one of G. J. Bath's books.

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Snow claimed to have purchased it from a "New York Dealer" c. 1940, who said it came from the manuscript collection of Henry Bentinck, 1st Duke of Portland. This seems very unlikely and its provenance was never verified beyond c. 1940.

The style of the map is in the vein of the fictional map in Robert Louis Stevenson's Treasure Island (1883):
  • On the main island there is a hill named "Lookout Hill" which resembles Spyglass Hill (Stevenson).
  • The map notes "chest buried here" (near a cross) = X marks the spot / "bulk of treasure here" [X] (Stevenson).
  • Anchorage symbol appears on both maps in the same place i.e., north inlet.
  • Stevenson's map has a small island off the southeastern coast named "foul place" while Snow's/Deadman's Island map has a small island off the southeastern coast named "Booby island".
Another treasure map hoax.

There is no way this could be an authentic 17th century map by Kidd since “X marks the spot” is a pirate literary trope popularized by Robert Louis Stevenson in the late 19th century. It did not appear on 17th or 18th century maps. The term first became an idiom in the 1800s used to pinpoint a location. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the use of an 'X' to mark a specific location on a map dates back to 1813.
 
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Cryptid 1990. I agree with your comments about Snow claimed to have purchased it from a "New York Dealer" c. 1940, who said it came from the manuscript collection of Henry Bentinck, 1st Duke of Portland. This seems very unlikely, and its provenance was never verified beyond c. 1940. Snow was a bit of a showman, writing books. It is easy to falsely attribute a provenance of map to some long dead Duke. On the Life magazine map, no signature of William Kidd, which speaks volumes.

The papers of Henry Bentinck, 1st Duke of Portland (1682–1726), are primarily housed within the Portland (Welbeck) Collection at the University of Nottingham Manuscripts and Special Collections, cataloged as Pw B. They cover his career as a politician and his time as Governor of Jamaica, with significant materials regarding his 1720 South Sea Stock losses.



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Henry was the second, but oldest surviving son of the 1st Earl of Portland and his wife Anne Villiers, and was styled Viscount Woodstock from 1689. Though his father accompanied William III to England in 1688, Henry did not follow, in order 'that he might not learn debauchery in that country'. In 1701, to complete his education, he was sent on the 'Grand Tour' of Europe, accompanied by the historian, Thoyras Rapin.

In 1716 Henry was created 1st Duke of Portland and Marquess of Titchfield, largely in memory of his illustrious father. Having inherited vast estates, he should have been extremely prosperous, but suffered heavy losses when the South Sea Bubble burst in 1720. As a result of this financial disaster, he accepted the post of Governor of Jamaica where he dealt, amongst other things, with the aftermath of a hurricane and with constitutional problems - all apparently with great success. Unfortunately, his tenure of the governorship was not to be a long one. He died in Jamaica in 1726 at the relatively young age of 44.

His family

In 1704 he married Lady Elizabeth Noel (d 1737), eldest daughter of the 2nd Earl of Gainsborough. They had five children:

William (1709-1762), later 2nd Duke of Portland
George (1715-1759)
Anne (d 1749) m Colonel Daniel Paul
Isabella (d 1783) m Henry Monck of Charleville, County Wicklow in 1739
Amelia (d 1756) m Jacob Arend, Baron de Wassenaer


1st Duke of Portland Papers

The 1st Duke's papers (Pw B) are part of the Portland (Welbeck) Collection held in Manuscripts and Special Collections at The University of Nottingham and include a large proportion of papers relating to South Sea Stock. The Portland (London) Collection (Pl C), also held in Manuscripts and Special Collections at The University of Nottingham, contains some papers relating to the family and estate business of the 1st Duke The Portland Estate Papers held at Nottinghamshire Archives also contain items relating to the 1st Duke's properties Details of collections held elsewhere are available through the National Register of Archives.

The Portland (Welbeck) Collection of papers was largely deposited at the University of Nottingham in 1949 by the 7th Duke of Portland, with a second major deposit arriving in 1968. The collection, featuring political and family correspondence, was formally accepted by the nation in lieu of tax in 1986, confirming its home at the university. So Edward Snow claimed in a copyright map 1946

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It's highly unlikely that this alleged William Kidd treasure map, copyrighted in 1946, document 3 years before The 1st Duke's papers (Pw B) are part of the Portland (Welbeck) Collection in 1949 was donated to the University of Nottingham by the 7th Duke of Portland. Initial Deposits: The 7th Duke of Portland initiated the transfer from Welbeck Abbey in 1949, with additional materials added in 1968. Divided Archive: The archive was split by the 7th Duke, with other sections going to the British Library (Harley family papers), Nottinghamshire Archives Office (estate papers), the Bodleian Library, and Hampshire Record Office.

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The title of Duke of Portland became extinct upon the death of the 9th Duke, Victor Cavendish-Bentinck, in 1990. I very much doubt his ancestors' papers were sold off in 1940, to some antique dealer in New York. In all the silliness of the absurd claims by Snow. If, on a remote chance, a map ever existed that a broke Henry Bentinck, 1st Duke of Portland. never tried to recover treasure or left the map, go to antique dealer. His descendants and personal papers still exist.

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While the Dukedom died out, the earldom of Portland continued and is currently held by Timothy Charles Robert Noel Bentinck, the 12th Earl of Portland, who is a descendant of the 1st Earl. Better known as an actor on the Archer TV series.

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I would guess the third and the last one.
I also think this is the best way to verify if those maps are originated with Kidd as we can not verify the paper or ink anymore but the handwriting on them can be analyzed.

It would be good to do a proper research on this.
 
Something I've been wanting to follow up. In December 1949, Wilkins wrote in a letter, "Have sold Capt. Kidd feature at a good price to Coronet Magazine in U.S.A., and the chart, done by me, with all the details so long hidden goes in... This is confidential, for the moment.” It’s mentioned again in January 1950 but not thereafter. I failed to find the article in Coronet for 1950 or 1951.
Issues of Coronet have been digitised and uploaded to archive.org. I searched for "Harold T. Wilkins" (all issues) but found nothing, so he did not publish an article. However, it is possible he drew a "treasure map" Coronet offered prints for sale ($1) in a 1957 issue.

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Could this be the "feature" Wilkins sold?

Tri-United Mfg., based at 104 Hussa St., Linden, N.J., was a manufacturer active in the late 1950s of novelty household items and small gift products. It appears they had a deal with Coronet to advertise their items for sale. Did Wilkins draw the treasure map they were selling?

Coronet published an article in 1949 on treasure hunting:

Coronet published an article in 1954 on Oak Island that touched upon the Kidd-Palmer maps:
 
Issues of Coronet have been digitised and uploaded to archive.org. I searched for "Harold T. Wilkins" (all issues) but found nothing, so he did not publish an article. However, it is possible he drew a "treasure map" Coronet offered prints for sale ($1) in a 1957 issue.

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Could this be the "feature" Wilkins sold?

Tri-United Mfg., based at 104 Hussa St., Linden, N.J., was a manufacturer active in the late 1950s of novelty household items and small gift products. It appears they had a deal with Coronet to advertise their items for sale. Did Wilkins draw the treasure map they were selling?

Coronet published an article in 1949 on treasure hunting:

Coronet published an article in 1954 on Oak Island that touched upon the Kidd-Palmer maps:
Great stuff as usual.

This illustrates the industry that developed over the 20th century of promoting treasure maps and books on buried pirate treasure. That and sensationalized stories in newspapers have influenced public perceptions of buried treasure even to this day.

This is where many people fall astray. It is not being derogatory of them; it happened where people become enthralled with such stories, and they start seeing clues in promotional products as real treasure clues. Whole books have been written, and lives have been wasted, basing their research on chasing rainbows, looking for clues in 20th-century fake maps and stories.

Even old Crow, I put my hand up 40 years ago, I am not ashamed, I did the same back then, caught up in the hype like many other people. Many do not advance in their research and critical thinking and remain lost in a self-perpetuating fantasy, blind to all else. Others quit and move on, and freaks like me learn to research for the truth. But it's a long, hard, thankless journey of many errors and Mistakes that you learn from along the way.

Crow
 
The one he signed on the Deadman Island map, he also drew on it a coast line on what he described as the mainland, smile if you know where that location is and you've sailed there. 😁
Oak Island Sage
 
The one he signed on the Deadman Island map, he also drew on it a coast line on what he described as the mainland, smile if you know where that location is and you've sailed there. 😁
Oak Island Sage
You are wrong as usual. The "Deadman's Island" map was an embellishment created in 1946 by H. P. Hood and Sons Dairy. The original map in the possession of Edward Rowe Snow (see below) was not even named Deadman's Island and did not have the signature at bottom near coast line. You failed to do basic research. Your book only contains the embellished map made in 1946 (and not the original map by Snow).

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The William Kidd signature (bottom left) near coastline was added in 1946 alongside the Jolly Roger and "Deadman's Island" name for the island as embellishments. The original much more simple map did not have the signature, skull and crossbones nor was the island named:

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It is by no means clear that Kidd's initials appear on the original. There is no "W. K." only a "W" next to "1699".
 
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