gjb
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When concluding otherwise would be most inconvenient!
I hold that there’s an important Oak Island anomaly that should be considered objectively, and assessed in similar fashion, rather than starting out with the answer that people want to hear and believe.
I’m constantly being told that I’m wrong about a particular suggestion and would like to get the matter fully out into the open and discussed, with people declaring where they stand on the subject and why.
In his book, Captain Kidd and His Skeleton Island, Harold Wilkins not only presents the two contentious Wilkins-Kidd (Mar Del) maps but also includes the outline of another 'treasure’ island that he refers to as 'John S’s Rough Map' (1934, p.345, UK edition; 1937, p.383, US edition)
Wilkins claims not to know its identity and asks his readers, “where is this treasure island?” I suggest that the outline has every appearance of being Oak Island as depicted by the cartographer J.F.W. Des Barres in his collection of charts including Nova Scotia The Atlantic Neptune (1775), under the name of Gloucester Isle. For easier comparison, I've slightly reduced the y axis of the Rough Map as below:
Note well the ‘bulb’ at the eastern extremity of both outlines and the common ‘inlet’ or ‘cove’ at the northwest. Note also the two apparent ‘rivers’ depicted in virtually the same locations, these potentially being positioned at the gaps in the tree line created by the ancient roadway. We know that Gloucester Isle is definitely Oak Island and we know that the island has no water courses where indicated. So, what else might they be?
I’ve been told that this cannot possibly be Oak Island because of the orientation (the compass rose on the original) and because the island doesn’t have a lagoon at northwest, which completely ignores the possibility of misguided elaboration or subterfuge (thus, as above, remove these and then do the comparison).
When I’ve suggested that the two interior crosses might be positioned to represent a portion of Nolan’s Cross (perhaps Cone A and the Head Stone?) I’ve been told that this cannot be because Nolan’s Cross is a fake. However, this is something we don’t know for a fact. The Rough Map was drawn pre-1934, well before Nolan’s Cross was discovered, so this would mean that somebody had prior knowledge of the Cross and wanted to draw attention to it.
Some do observe that Gloucester Isle isn’t precisely like Oak Island, so a rough copy of it wouldn’t be either. I generally find that those who vehemently deny that the map could even remotely be Oak Island are those who are simply not prepared to contemplate the possibility due to the inconvenient implications of this being so.
What do you think? Could John S’s Rough Map possibly be a representation of Oak Island? Please try to be objective and support your conclusions, specifically if negative, with observations that everyone can check out and assess for themselves.
I hold that there’s an important Oak Island anomaly that should be considered objectively, and assessed in similar fashion, rather than starting out with the answer that people want to hear and believe.
I’m constantly being told that I’m wrong about a particular suggestion and would like to get the matter fully out into the open and discussed, with people declaring where they stand on the subject and why.
In his book, Captain Kidd and His Skeleton Island, Harold Wilkins not only presents the two contentious Wilkins-Kidd (Mar Del) maps but also includes the outline of another 'treasure’ island that he refers to as 'John S’s Rough Map' (1934, p.345, UK edition; 1937, p.383, US edition)
Wilkins claims not to know its identity and asks his readers, “where is this treasure island?” I suggest that the outline has every appearance of being Oak Island as depicted by the cartographer J.F.W. Des Barres in his collection of charts including Nova Scotia The Atlantic Neptune (1775), under the name of Gloucester Isle. For easier comparison, I've slightly reduced the y axis of the Rough Map as below:
Note well the ‘bulb’ at the eastern extremity of both outlines and the common ‘inlet’ or ‘cove’ at the northwest. Note also the two apparent ‘rivers’ depicted in virtually the same locations, these potentially being positioned at the gaps in the tree line created by the ancient roadway. We know that Gloucester Isle is definitely Oak Island and we know that the island has no water courses where indicated. So, what else might they be?
I’ve been told that this cannot possibly be Oak Island because of the orientation (the compass rose on the original) and because the island doesn’t have a lagoon at northwest, which completely ignores the possibility of misguided elaboration or subterfuge (thus, as above, remove these and then do the comparison).
When I’ve suggested that the two interior crosses might be positioned to represent a portion of Nolan’s Cross (perhaps Cone A and the Head Stone?) I’ve been told that this cannot be because Nolan’s Cross is a fake. However, this is something we don’t know for a fact. The Rough Map was drawn pre-1934, well before Nolan’s Cross was discovered, so this would mean that somebody had prior knowledge of the Cross and wanted to draw attention to it.
Some do observe that Gloucester Isle isn’t precisely like Oak Island, so a rough copy of it wouldn’t be either. I generally find that those who vehemently deny that the map could even remotely be Oak Island are those who are simply not prepared to contemplate the possibility due to the inconvenient implications of this being so.
What do you think? Could John S’s Rough Map possibly be a representation of Oak Island? Please try to be objective and support your conclusions, specifically if negative, with observations that everyone can check out and assess for themselves.
