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Mysterious Tin Coin - part of Templar legacy?
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"I examined the coin. There are no traces of an adhesive. If it was ever adhered to anything, it must have been cleaned really well. It may have been intended to be adhered, but the lack of residue makes me think it has never been. Also, if there were traces of adhesive, the report from the metallurgy lab would state it, but it doesn't."
Vastik, thank you for clarifying that it was your observation which concluded it was never attached to something. Thanks also for explaining that because your acquaintance at the University who was given the task of identifying the metal did not mention what traces of cement might be adhering to the metal, and that means catagorically that there were no traces of gray cement adhering to the back.
As I mentioned before, I for one can see the cement in two of the bottom lines. I can also see obvious discoloration on the verso not consistant with the front metal; I also see the same traces of gray discoloration on the inside of the verso's rim. All of this strongly suggests, in fact considering other factors, definately says it was intentionally cleaned and what remained was in spots difficult to reach. I can also see the pry mark on the top verso, along with new bright lines beneath the prying mark which evidently came from the instrument used to remove it from it's backing. Beyond that, I see the score lines on a blank back which would serve no other purpose than to adhere it to something, as there is no point in "defacing " a blank back. That is my observation which you can take or leave as you see fit.
Vastik, thank you for clarifying that it was your observation which concluded it was never attached to something. Thanks also for explaining that because your acquaintance at the University who was given the task of identifying the metal did not mention what traces of cement might be adhering to the metal, and that means catagorically that there were no traces of gray cement adhering to the back.
As I mentioned before, I for one can see the cement in two of the bottom lines. I can also see obvious discoloration on the verso not consistant with the front metal; I also see the same traces of gray discoloration on the inside of the verso's rim. All of this strongly suggests, in fact considering other factors, definately says it was intentionally cleaned and what remained was in spots difficult to reach. I can also see the pry mark on the top verso, along with new bright lines beneath the prying mark which evidently came from the instrument used to remove it from it's backing. Beyond that, I see the score lines on a blank back which would serve no other purpose than to adhere it to something, as there is no point in "defacing " a blank back. That is my observation which you can take or leave as you see fit.
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Observation taken Johnnyi, but I'm more curious about the symbology at this point. I need to find more people to take a look at this and perhaps examine it in person.
If anyone on this forum knows someone who is educated on Rosicrucian, Jesuit, Freemason, or Illuminati symbology, please have them take a look.
Thanks for your input folks!
If anyone on this forum knows someone who is educated on Rosicrucian, Jesuit, Freemason, or Illuminati symbology, please have them take a look.
Thanks for your input folks!
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I have observed many identifications here at TN. Generally what is done first, is identify the era that this object was made. Since we cannot see it in person, a side view is necessary. It appears to everyone that this is a machine stamped piece. Its so thin that you can see the outline on the backside. If you didnt tell me different, I might have thought its aluminum. I think its off a wine bottle, book or gift box. It would be senseless to try to place this in late medieval Germany. Im sorry but there is no nice way of saying it. Now as far as what it represents, maybe someone will find more than we already know.. Buckleboy is fluent is German, maybe he can help.vastik said:Observation taken Johnnyi, but I'm more curious about the symbology at this point. I need to find more people to take a look at this and perhaps examine it in person.
If anyone on this forum knows someone who is educated on Rosicrucian, Jesuit, Freemason, or Illuminati symbology, please have them take a look.
Thanks for your input folks!
Did you tell us the size or did I miss it?
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Heres where MJ found the 1900 mission. Also posted by DCMatt. http://translate.google.com/transla...rosoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7GGLR_en&sa=G
In memory of the sacred mission is the translation. What is "the sacred mission"?
In memory of the sacred mission is the translation. What is "the sacred mission"?
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http://www.free-press-release.com/n...ucian-symbols-puzzles-experts-1255387651.html
An analysis of the coin/token is performed at the University of Toronto's Metallurgy Labs. It is in excellent condition and made of tin - which tends to deteriorate with handling and probably from the 14 or 1500s. ...
...The scratch lines in the patina on the reverse were made later.
An analysis of the coin/token is performed at the University of Toronto's Metallurgy Labs. It is in excellent condition and made of tin - which tends to deteriorate with handling and probably from the 14 or 1500s. ...
...The scratch lines in the patina on the reverse were made later.
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SWR said:
This was a great read... RECOMMENDED if any of you take this find seriously.
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Even though it doesnt live up to the extraordinary claims, it still needs an ID. I hate to see everyone give up on it because of the bold fabrications.
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I think it has something to do with the "Lost Confederate Gold" and the KGC !!!! 
And maybe it has something to do with a guy named "beale" 
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And maybe it has something to do with a guy named "beale" ??
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Wow....I'm thinking that if you guys have already found the press release that was posted less than 24 hours ago....you guys have absolutely no life other than going on these silly forums and trying to discredit honest folks.
SWR,
You say that this is to "our expense" -- what expense would that be? You don't pay to be on here. If you didn't think much of this item, you wouldn't waste your time on this post. Obviously there is more to it than you would like to admit.
The notion that this was once on a wine bottle is absolutely ridiculous. Why would anybody put such symbology on a wine bottle or case?
You all seem to have failed to realize the significance of the symbology because you are too wrapped up in what it's made of, or what it was stuck to.
Shees!!!!
SWR,
You say that this is to "our expense" -- what expense would that be? You don't pay to be on here. If you didn't think much of this item, you wouldn't waste your time on this post. Obviously there is more to it than you would like to admit.
The notion that this was once on a wine bottle is absolutely ridiculous. Why would anybody put such symbology on a wine bottle or case?
You all seem to have failed to realize the significance of the symbology because you are too wrapped up in what it's made of, or what it was stuck to.
Shees!!!!
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"WTF"....i paid to be on here.
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Muddyhandz said:Although I'm sure the Britts will laugh at me, I suggest e-mailing the pictures of this "object" to DAVID ICKE. I'm sure he will tell what the symbology means. Pay no attention to the reptilians that might interfere with your progress.
Good luck!
Dave.
Would that be David Icke "sports commentator" turned "Son of God"?
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I think your making a mountain out of a mole hill.vastik said:This has now gotten way beyond silly.
I thought I could find some help on this forum. Evidently, I was wrong.
Since you guys are more interested in making fun of this more than helping, I am taking my questions to others who are more serious.
I agree.IronSpike said:Appear to be a one sided object.
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"Wow....I'm thinking that if you guys have already found the press release that was posted less than 24 hours ago....you guys have absolutely no life other than going on these silly forums and trying to discredit honest folks."
vastik, I doubt if such a statement is going to help your cause, particularly as it flies in the face of what you asked the posters here to do; which was use their valuable time to attempt to research your "friend's" object. The majority have been doing that, and that includes stumbling upon "press releases". Nevertheless, "discrediting", or more accurately here, kicking the tires, is all part of coming to conclusions which at least can get people looking in the right direction. By now your obvious association with someone who's tires get kicked quite often should, one would think, prepare you for the skeptics who in fact can never be a threat to you unless they are proven right.
Hang in there vastik. Gird up your loins brother! Columbus endured far more than you are enduring here and look, now we've got Columbus day!
vastik, I doubt if such a statement is going to help your cause, particularly as it flies in the face of what you asked the posters here to do; which was use their valuable time to attempt to research your "friend's" object. The majority have been doing that, and that includes stumbling upon "press releases". Nevertheless, "discrediting", or more accurately here, kicking the tires, is all part of coming to conclusions which at least can get people looking in the right direction. By now your obvious association with someone who's tires get kicked quite often should, one would think, prepare you for the skeptics who in fact can never be a threat to you unless they are proven right.
Hang in there vastik. Gird up your loins brother! Columbus endured far more than you are enduring here and look, now we've got Columbus day!
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vastik said:This has now gotten way beyond silly.
I thought I could find some help on this forum. Evidently, I was wrong.
Since you guys are more interested in making fun of this more than helping, I am taking my questions to others who are more serious.
Maybe, a laugh is all this has become, you seem to have missed the expertise given. You came for answers & you got the wrong one. Sorry thats life.
I feel another $1000 bet coming on....
PS. Yes the symbolism would be interesting to understand but still won't make it an old find (pre-1800), a token or a coin. (well at best a unifaced medallion/medal which has been defaced on the reverse, but its a long shot). I changed my mind and agreed with the stuck to something theory, why do you find it so hard to believe? Scan those reports & lets get closer to the answer.
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