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nolemiester
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chloe said:
Chloe- that is an great idea. No one has brought that up before. "The secret is not half, but it is not whole"
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Chloe- that is an great idea. No one has brought that up before. "The secret is not half, but it is not whole"
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jewels1301
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Try saving it as a .jpeg. It sounds like you saved it in a .gif format. Jpeg is usually smaller. If you can decrease the resolution when you save it, that would also decrease the file size.
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nolemiester
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gonemad- that is a good catch about the moon pages each being 10 pages apart. There may be signifcance there. Ok, i know this is asking a lot, but could someone please compile a comprehensive list of all the pages that have insects on them including the very hidden ones. If i make a breakthrough i will send that person a private message entailing my finds and results. Thanks.
---Nolan
---Nolan
CMSCHUT
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Didn't mean to scare you but I'm not having luck scanning.
That picture just jumps out at ya huh?
Caol is still laughing, ROTFLMBO!!!
This is the back of pg.77
I'm trying to upload a better version of that pic but I get an error message saying the upload file is fiull.
I'll try again later I guess.
Sorry 'bout the bugs on your windshhield
That picture just jumps out at ya huh?
Caol is still laughing, ROTFLMBO!!!
This is the back of pg.77
I'm trying to upload a better version of that pic but I get an error message saying the upload file is fiull.
I'll try again later I guess.
Sorry 'bout the bugs on your windshhield
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MissMoops
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hey everyone i'm sry to be repeating myself if so but my last post was not really me cause i have a shared username- my friend and i. I know i should go back through the trouble like all u guys did and read all of this but i really don't have all the time in the world. So anybody please brief me on the stuff that i need to know to even get close to this treasure? ![:-\](https://www.treasurenet.com/smilies/undecided.gif "Undecided :-\")
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MissMoops
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anyone?
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MissMoops
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ok maybe i should just go right ahead and start with some of my on going questions. So I was wondering about the clue on pg. 52. As it's obvious I'm seeing many scattered letters on the acorns but i can't make out many words just hats basically anyway if anyone can help me out on this one i'll be very greatful
Missy
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CMSCHUT
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oh sweetie, that's part of the poem. The full poem (throughout the illustrations) is posted on a different page of this thread.
But this page says "For the one that is missing you did not see"
The contest doesn't end till Dec 31 '07 so you've got plenty of time to search through the posts. Slow and easy will save your sanity (maybe)
Don't mind us we're just having fun with the bugs on our windshield
But this page says "For the one that is missing you did not see"
The contest doesn't end till Dec 31 '07 so you've got plenty of time to search through the posts. Slow and easy will save your sanity (maybe)
Don't mind us we're just having fun with the bugs on our windshield
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My Brain Hurts
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I hate to be a wet blanket on all we are looking at (beacuse i am going nuts looking at everything too),but in the only clues we can all agree on states "within the TEXT you have the key" meaning in the words. Perhaps our understanding of the pictures will only come through the understanding of the text first.
Also,an even code with one piece nary(missing) would ,in the context of the alphabet, would give you 25 , not an even number.
Any criticisim will be considered constructive...... thanks
Also,an even code with one piece nary(missing) would ,in the context of the alphabet, would give you 25 , not an even number.
Any criticisim will be considered constructive...... thanks
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LitDoc
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The 25 is for the 5 x 5 squares.
You need to consider a couplet as a full clues, therefore:
"Within the text you have the key for the one that is missing you did not see."
The text is the key to the one that is missing. It doesn't promise anything more.
You need to consider a couplet as a full clues, therefore:
"Within the text you have the key for the one that is missing you did not see."
The text is the key to the one that is missing. It doesn't promise anything more.
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I sorta took on this border after authoring "tool shapes form words." I don't know how many times I've stared at the page til I started dreaming about it. Today, it finally dawned on me - can't BELIEVE I didn't see it before. I couldn't get the words at the bottom because of the framing square that looked like an upside down "L." Didn't make sense. Today it did, so see what you guys think..
Starting at the right bottom above his signature, it reads:
LOCATE CIPHER KEY FOR SOLUTION ON PLOY (or PLOT)
METHOD
Each tool shape rests on the tool that forms the next letter
Bottom of border
L = angle of drill bit
O,C = funny circles on head of hatchet?
A = ruler over drill
T = ruler crossing orange protractor
E = other protractor and drill
C = same drill
I = head of drill and handle ball
P = orange protractor left side and circle at top
H = hammer and bit
E = silver protractor and lower drill bit
R = leaves and framing Angle
Left border
K = green branch, awl and start of next drill
E = Drill, ruler and protractor
Y = chisel and spoke tool
F = allen wrench?, protractor and drill handle
O = Drill ball
R = drill bit, protractor and square
Border top
S = hatcheta nd rod
O = wheel
L = Chisel and awl
U = handle of saw
T = Tree branch
I
O = both handle of plane
N = branch, chisel and line
right border
O = ball
N = hacksaw and next branch
P = protractor? and blade
L = chisel and branch
O = plumb bob
Y = Spoke saw and chisel.
The "end of the line" of the plumbbob is the end of the line!
Sorry that took so long.
NB - if you look carefully at the reflection in the bottom square o cipher, it looks like 2 mushrooms to me. CLUE, maybe?
OK, don't kill me for the long post. Hope this makes sense to you guys.
Chris
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I admire and respect your efforts. The detection of a pattern either reflects a recognition of an existing design, or is the product of an intelligent, creative mind acting on an otherwise disordered system. Unfortunately, my instincts tell me that the letters you see represent the latter.
In some ways it's a moot point, because the message you have seen is one we should probably take to heart anyways. I believe that we do need to find a cipher key, since all of our efforts to interpret clues or extract letters from a 5x5 grid have yielded nothing but a pile of gibberish.
I won't give up on this quest, but I'm starting to run out of steam. Maybe I'll glue some rhinestones onto the back of a cockroach and pretend that I've redeemed one of the tokens.
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This is Renart's conclusion (not mine), and he is on another forum.
I sorta took on this border after authoring "tool shapes form words." I don't know how many times I've stared at the page til I started dreaming about it. Today, it finally dawned on me - can't BELIEVE I didn't see it before. I couldn't get the words at the bottom because of the framing square that looked like an upside down "L." Didn't make sense. Today it did, so see what you guys think..
Starting at the right bottom above his signature, it reads:
LOCATE CIPHER KEY FOR SOLUTION ON PLOY (or PLOT)
METHOD
Each tool shape rests on the tool that forms the next letter
Bottom of border
L = angle of drill bit
O,C = funny circles on head of hatchet?
A = ruler over drill
T = ruler crossing orange protractor
E = other protractor and drill
C = same drill
I = head of drill and handle ball
P = orange protractor left side and circle at top
H = hammer and bit
E = silver protractor and lower drill bit
R = leaves and framing Angle
Left border
K = green branch, awl and start of next drill
E = Drill, ruler and protractor
Y = chisel and spoke tool
F = allen wrench?, protractor and drill handle
O = Drill ball
R = drill bit, protractor and square
Border top
S = hatcheta nd rod
O = wheel
L = Chisel and awl
U = handle of saw
T = Tree branch
I
O = both handle of plane
N = branch, chisel and line
right border
O = ball
N = hacksaw and next branch
P = protractor? and blade
L = chisel and branch
O = plumb bob
Y = Spoke saw and chisel.
The "end of the line" of the plumbbob is the end of the line!
Sorry that took so long.
NB - if you look carefully at the reflection in the bottom square o cipher, it looks like 2 mushrooms to me. CLUE, maybe?
OK, don't kill me for the long post. Hope this makes sense to you guys.
Chris
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calvin
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Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Posts: 23
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:46 am Post subject:
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I admire and respect your efforts. The detection of a pattern either reflects a recognition of an existing design, or is the product of an intelligent, creative mind acting on an otherwise disordered system. Unfortunately, my instincts tell me that the letters you see represent the latter.
In some ways it's a moot point, because the message you have seen is one we should probably take to heart anyways. I believe that we do need to find a cipher key, since all of our efforts to interpret clues or extract letters from a 5x5 grid have yielded nothing but a pile of gibberish.
I won't give up on this quest, but I'm starting to run out of steam. Maybe I'll glue some rhinestones onto the back of a cockroach and pretend that I've redeemed one of the tokens.
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This is Renart's conclusion (not mine), and he is on another forum.
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RonMN
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THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX: I went back to "exact location" and the directions "there hiding places will be revealed on December 31, 2007" so i've been looking up all variations of DECEMBER312007.COM and 123107.COM etc., etc., so far no luck but there's lots of variations...
Just a new way of looking at it...
Ron...
Just a new way of looking at it...
Ron...
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MissMoops
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i've been staring at the post for hours (not literally) waiting for an answer and of course all i needed to do was refresh the page and there i have my answers. Sry this will take some time to understand. Well anyway I'm here to chat aren't i? but u'll c i'm not as dumb as i appear at the moment 
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MissMoops
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my friend and i think we have finished th on going poem that someone told me about as if i were an idiot. thaks but i do appreciate ur concerns anyway i don't want to sound obnoxious but u shouldn't judge kids i mean they will probably be the ones to find the treasures anyway cause we are what the book is directed towards. Anyway all u adults r geniouses so i don't want to do anything to make u upset so that u won't share ur amazing ideas with me!! Anyway i think my friend and i mayhave find this way of coding called 5x5 if u guys don't already know about. My friends in to all this spy and detective work so ask her about it but i do think that if we use whatever this method is of decoding we can get somewhere
Missy
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MissMoops
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Anyone wanna answer me? 
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nolemiester
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Gonemad- thanks, but i have already proved my own theory 2 be faulty. I've been wanting to reveal this to the forum for a long time but i was afraid i might be shooting myself in the foot. But here it is: Ok, look at page 16 at the box of assorted colors. Now, make a 5X5 matrix substituting the colors for letters. Make sure you leave out the letter Q. Now, if you own a scanner or have access to one, you will have a much better advantage at solving this clue. Now, take page 16 and scan it. After you scanned it, blow up the colored box to full page size and print it out. Now, In conjunction with the colored background/border that is behind the faeries spelling out letters, use the 5X5 alphabet matrix and the blown up color box and try decoding the colors into letters. This is the 5X5 alphabet matrix i was talking about.
ABCDE
FGHIJ
KLMNO
PRSTU
VWXYZ
I just wanted someone else's input on it. Thanks.
---Nolan
ABCDE
FGHIJ
KLMNO
PRSTU
VWXYZ
I just wanted someone else's input on it. Thanks.
---Nolan
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This is my first post. I bought the book in January and have read it several times. I don?t have the time to sort through the multiple layers of puzzles, codes and clues required to solve the location of any of the tokens accurately so I gave up trying but continued observing the efforts of others through the post on this site as well as tweleve.org and 12gems.com.
After seeing several post mentioning that Tennessee might be a State where a token was located and seeing post # 1053 mentioning Clingmans Dome as possible site, my interest somewhat renewed. I live in that general area of the country and have hiked in the Smokey Mountains for years. Clingmans Dome is in Smokey Mountain National Park on the North Carolina/Tennessee border.
I went back and looked at Chapters 11 (?Rusful?) and 18 (?The Ransom?), both of which are preceded by boxes with pointing fairies and include descriptions of Rusful?s lair.
My thoughts, for a number of reasons, are that Mt. LeConte (not Clingmans Dome) might be a site. Mt. LeConte is in Tennessee, just outside of Gatlinburg but also in Smokey Mountain National Park.
My reasoning is as follows:
1. The Smokey Mountains are millions of years old (page 55 - ?millions of years of rain?).
2. Mt. LeConte is largely composed of limestone (page 55 - ?lime stone hill?).
3. One of the trails up Mt. LeConte passes ?Grotto Falls?, a waterfall over a small cave (page 55 ? ?Once, a clear stream had spilled from the grotto?s mouth and splashed over pale rocks into the valley below?).
4. Another trail up Mt. LeConte is the ?Alum Cave Bluff Trail?. Alum Cave was a mine for gunpowder ingredients during the Civil War. Saltpeter (which gives off a sulphery smell) at the site makes Alum Cave smell acrid (page 56 ? ?sulfurous wisps of vapor acrid grotto?)
5. Many of the trees on Mt. LeConte and other nearby mountains are dying from balsam woolly adelgid (insects) and acid rain. (the dying forest)
6. The climb up Mt. LeConte is steep and hard (page 88 ? ?the hard climb?)
7. Mt. LeConte has a rock pile (heap) with an interesting history. (page 92 ? ?a broken heap of glistening black rocks?). Clingmans Dome is the 2nd highest mountain east of the Mississippi (6643'). Mt. LeConte is the 3rd highest mountain east of the Mississippi (6593'), 50? shorter than Clingmans Dome. For years hikers have carried a rock with them to the top of Mt. LeConte and thrown it on the pile, ostensibly for the purpose of making Mt. LeConte higher than Clingmans Dome.
This is only an educated guess on my part but I though I would pass on my knowledge of the area as it may be useful to someone with more time and better puzzle, code and clue solving skills than I.
The bad news is that Mt. LeConte is only accessible by hiking difficult trails, the shortest (and steepest) of which is about 4 ? miles (one way).
I encourage anyone who doubts the veracity of the above information to check it out. The National Park Service web-site for Smokey Mountain National Park contains much of the information. Other web-sites (which existed long before the book was published) contain similar information.
Good luck to all.
After seeing several post mentioning that Tennessee might be a State where a token was located and seeing post # 1053 mentioning Clingmans Dome as possible site, my interest somewhat renewed. I live in that general area of the country and have hiked in the Smokey Mountains for years. Clingmans Dome is in Smokey Mountain National Park on the North Carolina/Tennessee border.
I went back and looked at Chapters 11 (?Rusful?) and 18 (?The Ransom?), both of which are preceded by boxes with pointing fairies and include descriptions of Rusful?s lair.
My thoughts, for a number of reasons, are that Mt. LeConte (not Clingmans Dome) might be a site. Mt. LeConte is in Tennessee, just outside of Gatlinburg but also in Smokey Mountain National Park.
My reasoning is as follows:
1. The Smokey Mountains are millions of years old (page 55 - ?millions of years of rain?).
2. Mt. LeConte is largely composed of limestone (page 55 - ?lime stone hill?).
3. One of the trails up Mt. LeConte passes ?Grotto Falls?, a waterfall over a small cave (page 55 ? ?Once, a clear stream had spilled from the grotto?s mouth and splashed over pale rocks into the valley below?).
4. Another trail up Mt. LeConte is the ?Alum Cave Bluff Trail?. Alum Cave was a mine for gunpowder ingredients during the Civil War. Saltpeter (which gives off a sulphery smell) at the site makes Alum Cave smell acrid (page 56 ? ?sulfurous wisps of vapor
acrid grotto?)5. Many of the trees on Mt. LeConte and other nearby mountains are dying from balsam woolly adelgid (insects) and acid rain. (the dying forest)
6. The climb up Mt. LeConte is steep and hard (page 88 ? ?the hard climb?)
7. Mt. LeConte has a rock pile (heap) with an interesting history. (page 92 ? ?a broken heap of glistening black rocks?). Clingmans Dome is the 2nd highest mountain east of the Mississippi (6643'). Mt. LeConte is the 3rd highest mountain east of the Mississippi (6593'), 50? shorter than Clingmans Dome. For years hikers have carried a rock with them to the top of Mt. LeConte and thrown it on the pile, ostensibly for the purpose of making Mt. LeConte higher than Clingmans Dome.
This is only an educated guess on my part but I though I would pass on my knowledge of the area as it may be useful to someone with more time and better puzzle, code and clue solving skills than I.
The bad news is that Mt. LeConte is only accessible by hiking difficult trails, the shortest (and steepest) of which is about 4 ? miles (one way).
I encourage anyone who doubts the veracity of the above information to check it out. The National Park Service web-site for Smokey Mountain National Park contains much of the information. Other web-sites (which existed long before the book was published) contain similar information.
Good luck to all.
M
MissMoops
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OK- Does anyone have a clue what the hidden text is on pg 37 on the fairy book cover? it's just impossible for me to c and as i read in some previous posts some people are trying to do some scientific experiments with it and sry i'm just not up to doing that so maybe just tell me a simple way to find it without ruining my book- or just give me what it says which would make my life a lot easier
Missy
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