LUE MAP CLUES

[mdog]

In an attempt to simplify the information that I shared in my thread LUE MAP THEORY, MAYBE SOME CONTEXT, I decided to start this thread. I'll keep it brief.

The orientation of the map is South at the top, North at the bottom, West on the right and East on the left.

The three large triangles in the lower right quadrant, represent the United States. The dot at the top of the center triangle is at 45deg 48' 47" N and 95deg 40' 18" W, the site of the Kensington Runestone, in Minnesota. Scott Wolter has written that in 1926 ten men initiated an effort to raise $300,000 to build a 204 foot obelisk that would house the Kensington Runestone. Eight of these ten men were Masons.

The dot in the center of the circle is at 42deg 35' 59" N and 109deg 38' 22" W.

The lower right corner of the center triangle is at 29deg 58' 45" N and 81deg 18' 44" W. This site is just north of St. Augustine, Florida which is one of the earliest Spanish settlements in what is now the United States. The latitude, at this point, is the same latitude as the Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt.

The horizontal line that bisects two of the triangles varies between 37deg 41' N, on the left, and 37deg 23' N. on the right. On this latitude there are several treasure and treasure legend related sites. They are. the Beale Treasure, the Swift Treasure, Fort Knox Bullion Depository, Blanca Peak, Colorado and Treasure Mountain, Colorado. Further west, the latitude passes 13 miles north of the Four Corners Monument and into the Monument Valley of Utah.

I think this latitude was chosen because it is halfway between the latitude of the Kensington Runestone 45deg 48' N and the latitude of the Great Pyramid, 29deg 58' N, whose latitude is found just north of St. Augustine, Florida. The halfway point, between those two latitudes, is at 37deg 53' N, which is the latitude of the United States Bullion Depository at Fort Knox. This is interesting because Fort Knox is mentioned in Von Mueller's caption under the picture of the LUE map in Treasure Hunter's Manual #7. Something else of interest is found in Von Mueller's book Treasure of the Valley of Secrets. In his book, he mentions Blanca Peak, Treasure Mountain and Monument Valley, Utah, all places along the bisecting latitude.

Another place on this bisecting latitude is found on the west side of Blanca Peak. Von Mueller has written that the word LUE came from the first letters of three words written on the map, LLORO URRACA ENTERRARI, I cry, magpie, bury. I believe this phrase refers to the Pioneer Urraca Cemetery at the foot of Blanca Peak.

In the upper left quadrant of the LUE map are five steps that could be used to show latitude, each step would equal ten degrees. Five is also a number that is associated with the five petals on the red wild rose and the five wounds on Christ at the Cross. The red wild rose would represent the blood of Christ. Blanca Peak is located in a mountain range named Sangre de Christo, the blood of Christ. The steps on the LUE map could indicate the Sangre de Christo Mountains.

In the middle of the LUE map, where the quadrants join, there are four corners. These corners could indicate the Four Corners region of Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona and Utah.

In the upper left quadrant the Sun and it's rays should be considered a protractor. The rays show degree headings. The headings are 103.5, 119, 134, 150, 165, 180, 196, 210, 227, 242 and 257. Start these headings at the Kensington Runestone and the point in the circle location. Run the lines to the borders of the United States, using Google Earth or a table map that shows latitude and longitude as slightly curving lines. Two more starting points will be on the north side of Fort Knox and at a point 13 miles above the Four Corners Memorial. The intersections of these lines will create multiple locations on your map of the United States. Some of the intersections will be near areas associated with treasure legends. Some locations are at Socorro, New Mexico, The Spider Rock location in Texas, Wildcat Bluff, Arkansas and the Waterhouse Treasure legend of NE Georgia.

Many thanks to Randy Bradford for the LUE map information that he has shared over the years.

 

[oldtimetreasurelore]

In an attempt to simplify the information that I shared in my thread LUE MAP THEORY, MAYBE SOME CONTEXT, I decided to start this thread. I'll keep it brief.

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The orientation of the map is South at the top, North at the bottom, West on the right and East on the left.

The three large triangles in the lower right quadrant, represent the United States. The dot at the top of the center triangle is at 45deg 48' 47" N and 95deg 40' 18" W, the site of the Kensington Runestone, in Minnesota. Scott Wolter has written that in 1926 ten men initiated an effort to raise $300,000 to build a 204 foot obelisk that would house the Kensington Runestone. Eight of these ten men were Masons.

The dot in the center of the circle is at 42deg 35' 59" N and 109deg 38' 22" W.

The lower right corner of the center triangle is at 29deg 58' 45" N and 81deg 18' 44" W. This site is just north of St. Augustine, Florida which is one of the earliest Spanish settlements in what is now the United States. The latitude, at this point, is the same latitude as the Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt.

The horizontal line that bisects two of the triangles varies between 37deg 41' N, on the left, and 37deg 23' N. on the right. On this latitude there are several treasure and treasure legend related sites. They are. the Beale Treasure, the Swift Treasure, Fort Knox Bullion Depository, Blanca Peak, Colorado and Treasure Mountain, Colorado. Further west, the latitude passes 13 miles north of the Four Corners Monument and into the Monument Valley of Utah.

I think this latitude was chosen because it is halfway between the latitude of the Kensington Runestone 45deg 48' N and the latitude of the Great Pyramid, 29deg 58' N, whose latitude is found just north of St. Augustine, Florida. The halfway point, between those two latitudes, is at 37deg 53' N, which is the latitude of the United States Bullion Depository at Fort Knox. This is interesting because Fort Knox is mentioned in Von Mueller's caption under the picture of the LUE map in Treasure Hunter's Manual #7. Something else of interest is found in Von Mueller's book Treasure of the Valley of Secrets. In his book, he mentions Blanca Peak, Treasure Mountain and Monument Valley, Utah, all places along the bisecting latitude.

Another place on this bisecting latitude is found on the west side of Blanca Peak. Von Mueller has written that the word LUE came from the first letters of three words written on the map, LLORO URRACA ENTERRARI, I cry, magpie, bury. I believe this phrase refers to the Pioneer Urraca Cemetery at the foot of Blanca Peak.

In the upper left quadrant of the LUE map are five steps that could be used to show latitude, each step would equal ten degrees. Five is also a number that is associated with the five petals on the red wild rose and the five wounds on Christ at the Cross. The red wild rose would represent the blood of Christ. Blanca Peak is located in a mountain range named Sangre de Christo, the blood of Christ. The steps on the LUE map could indicate the Sangre de Christo Mountains.

In the middle of the LUE map, where the quadrants join, there are four corners. These corners could indicate the Four Corners region of Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona and Utah.

In the upper left quadrant the Sun and it's rays should be considered a protractor. The rays show degree headings. The headings are 103.5, 119, 134, 150, 165, 180, 196, 210, 227, 242 and 257. Start these headings at the Kensington Runestone and the point in the circle location. Run the lines to the borders of the United States, using Google Earth or a table map that shows latitude and longitude as slightly curving lines. Two more starting points will be on the north side of Fort Knox and at a point 13 miles above the Four Corners Memorial. The intersections of these lines will create multiple locations on your map of the United States. Some of the intersections will be near areas associated with treasure legends. Some locations are at Socorro, New Mexico, The Spider Rock location in Texas, Wildcat Bluff, Arkansas and the Waterhouse Treasure legend of NE Georgia.

Many thanks to Randy Bradford for the LUE map information that he has shared over the years.

mdog I just now read this, you better lay off the peyote or whatever you've been smoking. I won't double check you theory but it must have taken you as long to come up with that as it took me to decode the LUE.
Keep watching and your knowledge will grow.
HBBB

 

[mdog]

mdog I just now read this, you better lay off the peyote or whatever you've been smoking. I won't double check you theory but it must have taken you as long to come up with that as it took me to decode the LUE.
Keep watching and your knowledge will grow.
HBBB

Thanks Bob. All comments are welcome. I'm sure there are many who share your sentiments.

I know you are a busy man, so I understand that you don't have time to check out my theory. It involves starting with a big area and working down to a smaller area, where you would be close enough to find clues in the field. It's similar to what you do when you work a site. As a matter of fact, I've suggested that if people want to learn about the LUE, they should read your book Rebel Gold.

I'll keep an eye on your thread and hope you share what you know about the LUE map.

mdog

 

[oldtimetreasurelore]

Thanks Bob. All comments are welcome. I'm sure there are many who share your sentiments.

I know you are a busy man, so I understand that you don't have time to check out my theory. It involves starting with a big area and working down to a smaller area, where you would be close enough to find clues in the field. It's similar to what you do when you work a site. As a matter of fact, I've suggested that if people want to learn about the LUE, they should read your book Rebel Gold.

I'll keep an eye on your thread and hope you share what you know about the LUE map.

mdog

MDOG I was just joshing about your theory. Thing is there are many depositories within the whole area of your diagram. Did you read Henry Lincoln's book "the Knights Templar's Secret Island? It shows a KT survey from France reaching way up to the, name escapes my feeble mind, Island off Denmark in the North Sea? You see how that system of angles and landmarks make patterns similar to ours. Henry Lincoln and I became pen pals through a friend of mine who helped with my work on Renne Le Chateau in France. There is a direct connection between the Priest Saunier and his probable lover, clues found in Texas link the to closely and the theme of that depository when decoded lead to a large recovery. Film after I'm gone. If treasure hunters haven't considered researching that French enigma they should, it is real close to being identical to what is found in many places in North America. Another book everyone interested, in what is called KGC treasure, should be required reading is one of several on Sacred Geometry. What our team calls the template is a geometric map overlay based on the 47th problem of Euclid. All Masons are taught that puzzle but I've yet to meet one that acts like he knows what I'm talking about when discussing Mason Geometry. They are good actors not to show surprise that I know some secrets too. mdog have you watched the video "Jesse James treasure map Tree" on YouTube? That shows some of how the coded treasure maps work.
Work, work, work, I'm so tired but can't stop, don't know how much sand is left at the top of my hourglass.
As for more on the LUE, its coming but now will not be much more until after my talk at the Shindig in Utah in August, busy working on that too.
More later as time allows.
HBBB

 

[oldtimetreasurelore]

Your work is excellent mdog. You should take a look at your birth certificate.There just might be some good info. encoded in it. Nice work backed up with proof.

Nice handle, Brother....
mdog has done a hell of a lot of work to arrive at his conclusion. Since I haven't had time to thoroughly digest all he's posted. I can only say one thing...again, the LUE map applies only to Arizona and only exactly where it was drawn to fit the topography and history. Other depositories are built the same way and use the same type of clues but even those only work in just one depository. Look carefully at the attached. Notice the stone outline was reportedly found on Oak Island in 1937........... need I say more now? There is only one template and it's the key to unlock every treasure belonging to the (don't say that name!)
All you need is the correct size pattern and of course some operating instructions. From me those are not likely to be published in my lifetime. HBBB

 

[mdog]

Your work is excellent mdog. You should take a look at your birth certificate.There just might be some good info. encoded in it. Nice work backed up with proof.

Thank you for the compliment, kabbalah.

 

[mdog]

Nice handle, Brother....
mdog has done a hell of a lot of work to arrive at his conclusion. Since I haven't had time to thoroughly digest all he's posted. I can only say one thing...again, the LUE map applies only to Arizona and only exactly where it was drawn to fit the topography and history. Other depositories are built the same way and use the same type of clues but even those only work in just one depository. Look carefully at the attached. Notice the stone outline was reportedly found on Oak Island in 1937........... need I say more now? There is only one template and it's the key to unlock every treasure belonging to the (don't say that name!)
All you need is the correct size pattern and of course some operating instructions. From me those are not likely to be published in my lifetime. HBBB

Thank you for the information, Bob. I watched your you tube video and found it very interesting. Thank you for sharing that information.

I also plan on getting Henry Lincoln's book.

I have hundreds of questions for you, but I know you're a busy man. so I'll wait for you to share your information, as you see fit. Thank you.

mdog

 

[mdog]

This chart shows how the steps on the upper left quadrant of the LUE map, can be used to show latitude.

Each step would be equal to 10 degrees North latitude.

There is something interesting about the pyramid in the upper left quadrant. The point at the top of the pyramid is even with the third step, which would be at the 30 degree N latitude position. The coordinates of the Great Pyramid of Giza are 29deg 58' 45" N latitude and 31deg 08' 03' E longitude.

 

[mdog]

I've posted that the LUE map is oriented with South at the top, North at the bottom, East to the left and West to the right.

I found this article that shows some of the ancient cultures oriented their maps with South at the top.

Egyptian Orientation And Geography - Sesh Medew Netcher

The indigenous peoples of Africa are of the first known to use body parts to map out geography and direction.

seshmedewnetcher.com

Why maps point North on top?

Even though historically maps have pointed to other directions, why maps point North on top is largely because of the huge influence of European culture

geospatialworld.net

 

[neo]

Is AI making a good guess ?
The proposed coordinates are:

33.013° N, 111.443° W

 

[sdcfia]

Is AI making a good guess ?
The proposed coordinates are:

33.013° N, 111.443° W

The first picture shows three azimuths close to your coordinates. The two NE-SW-erly lines are direct links between Brewer's Adamsville, Arizona site to the Kensington Runestone (red) and Inspiration Peak (purple), both in Minnesota.

The SE-erly yellow line connects to directly to the top of Big LUE Peak (second picture), then turns exactly 90º NE-erly directly to the large Masonic building at the International Peace Garden at the US/Canada border (second and third pictures, white line).

The second picture yellow line continues SE-erly through Big Lue Peak to Map Cave in New Mexico (not shown). Maps are fun.

 

[neo]

First was meta ai then I used Grok for second location I'm posting now

• The treasure is likely near Weaver’s Needle, mirrored across a central axis (e.g., 111.4° W), aligning with the dollar bill trick and reflection theme.
• The coordinates 33.4342° N, 111.4258° W place it in the Superstitions, consistent with the Peralta and Arizona clues.

 

[oldtimetreasurelore]

First was meta ai then I used Grok for second location I'm posting now

• The treasure is likely near Weaver’s Needle, mirrored across a central axis (e.g., 111.4° W), aligning with the dollar bill trick and reflection theme.
• The coordinates 33.4342° N, 111.4258° W place it in the Superstitions, consistent with the Peralta and Arizona clues.

First time I've seen the NEO handle. welcome to what now is looking like a contest trying to prove the most expertise on the LUE. For anyone with my book the co-ordinates shown therein are easy to plot. What you don't know is those are not exact but pretty close to the true center of the LUE map's position on the topo. I was not ready to tell all when the book was written, it was done to satisfy my co-authors wanting to put his writing skill to use.
you may be showing your lack of attention to details, because you of saying the location of "the treasure" is near Weaver's needle. I don't know if one of the many caches might be close to there, but understand we have not located more than a few of the cache locations. The master cache's approximate location is where I spent years trying to determine. Why worry about any of the gold out there, you or nobody else is ever going to collect any of it. There are/were many pots around the nation much safer and easier to get than any in that desert. Don't mix the BS with fact when it applies to real treasure hunting. What you think you know about actual treasure finding..... as far as we know, has never been seen on the WWW or a treasure forum. Erase all that from you mind and start over.
I am not a know it all, nobody can be, there are still many unanwered questions concerning the LUE and hundreds of other similar sites. Do some real research and trash all the theories so far explained. I am happy to see others actually serious about solving the biggest mystery in America and elsewhere.
HBBB

 

[sdcfia]

. . .
I am not a know it all, nobody can be, there are still many unanwered questions concerning the LUE and hundreds of other similar sites. Do some real research and trash all the theories so far explained. I am happy to see others actually serious about solving the biggest mystery in America and elsewhere.
HBBB

You may not know it all Bob, but you know a hell of a lot. I have a question for you, one that I've asked for decades and nobody, even von Mueller, has given a satisfying answer to:

What exactly is the LUE? Who is responsible for it and when was it created?

 

[neo]

I dont know anything about treasure hunting went out a few times with a metal detector and found some coins at the beach. I saw the Terry Carter vid and just took some things you said and the map punched I to ai just to see what came up. I have no idea if true just wanted to see if ai could crack it but ai is very strange I know early on it would just guess at questions it didn't know.

 

[oldtimetreasurelore]

You may not know it all Bob, but you know a hell of a lot. I have a question for you, one that I've asked for decades and nobody, even von Mueller, has given a satisfying answer to:

What exactly is the LUE? Who is responsible for it and when was it created?

Here I go again, a heavy rain just happened and now too wet to work outside as was planned.
Sdcifa the LUE is a codeword for an exact spot on a topo in the desert east of Phoenix. Don't have time nor eyesight to say much now, but hopefully your questions will be anwsered soon. I didn't know KVM but knew all of his running mates and spoke at length with most of them. All say the same thing that he was uninformed on the map he published. I have the complete story of when, where and how he got the map. One of his old buddies took a liking to me and gave me tons of information on many treasures in USA. KVM had to know something he never told, but he did reveal something in a code that gives away that he knew something. I once wrote about an old man in TN that I used to buy fish bait from. He was a native of TN but a real THer. He lived for years in or around Florence, AZ. He spent all of his time in the desert and said he found a pot of gold coins, it was enough for him to return home and never work again. The bait stand was just a hobby place he stored mementos. He died in 1961 and I didn't get around to seeing him much after 1960, aircraft carries took me away from Millington. He did say there was a lot more gold near where he got his. Of course the LUE wasn't known at that time, but I suspect he found one of the clue caches of which there are several there.
HBBB

 

[cuzimloony]

"What our team calls the template is a geometric map overlay based on the 47th problem of Euclid. All Masons are taught that puzzle but I've yet to meet one that acts like he knows what I'm talking about when discussing Mason Geometry."

Try me.

The 47th is really a proof of another mans work, Pythagorus and his theorum. Pythagorus provided the theorum. Euclid, the proof. BUT, these are the ratios and patters (and trig formulas) that created the world..........literally. The deeper you look, the more the patterns of life are geometrical....following a pattern.

I wrote an article lat year for the Knights Templar Magazine concerning Templar sacred geometry, how they created their cross and how it relates to time. Although they butchered my article, digitized all the pictures I drew by hand with square and compass, took out all references to Hermes (even though his name is in the title) and messed up the picture numbers, you get the idea. Starts on page 18. Chivalric Symbols of Hermeticism and the Geometry of Time. https://issuu.com/knightstemplar/docs/0324

I dont want to toot my own horn (although nobody else will so I guess its up to me...), but this is something I take a great interest in. I live in Florence , AZ ta boot.......(well, 20 min from Florence w/o giving my exact location). Id love to help in any way I can. Sacred Geometry is a forte of mine......

Its clear to me that the LUE is very Masonic in nature. But it looks like no map Ive ever seen and most Masonic stuff Ive focused on deals with internal gold, not physical gold....so Im currently at a loss.

Btw Mr. Brewer, if you read this......I probably wouldnt be a Mason without your book. Thank you. It changed my life for the better in more ways than one. I have a deep respect for you and hope to meet you in Moon Lake. Thank you for the adventures.

A bit on the pythagorean theorum (euclids 47th)

 

[mdog]

Here I go again, a heavy rain just happened and now too wet to work outside as was planned.
Sdcifa the LUE is a codeword for an exact spot on a topo in the desert east of Phoenix. Don't have time nor eyesight to say much now, but hopefully your questions will be anwsered soon. I didn't know KVM but knew all of his running mates and spoke at length with most of them. All say the same thing that he was uninformed on the map he published. I have the complete story of when, where and how he got the map. One of his old buddies took a liking to me and gave me tons of information on many treasures in USA. KVM had to know something he never told, but he did reveal something in a code that gives away that he knew something. I once wrote about an old man in TN that I used to buy fish bait from. He was a native of TN but a real THer. He lived for years in or around Florence, AZ. He spent all of his time in the desert and said he found a pot of gold coins, it was enough for him to return home and never work again. The bait stand was just a hobby place he stored mementos. He died in 1961 and I didn't get around to seeing him much after 1960, aircraft carries took me away from Millington. He did say there was a lot more gold near where he got his. Of course the LUE wasn't known at that time, but I suspect he found one of the clue caches of which there are several there.
HBBB

Thank you Bob for sharing your information on this thread. Most of it, I've never heard before.

What Karl wrote about the LUE map was that Hardrock Hammond borrowed it from a family who lived near Gila, AZ and then returned it after several people had copied it. I'm too old to chase buried treasure but I would be real interested in when, where and how Von Mueller got the map.

Thanks again.

Mdog

 

[oldtimetreasurelore]

"What our team calls the template is a geometric map overlay based on the 47th problem of Euclid. All Masons are taught that puzzle but I've yet to meet one that acts like he knows what I'm talking about when discussing Mason Geometry."

Try me.

The 47th is really a proof of another mans work, Pythagorus and his theorum. Pythagorus provided the theorum. Euclid, the proof. BUT, these are the ratios and patters (and trig formulas) that created the world..........literally. The deeper you look, the more the patterns of life are geometrical....following a pattern.

I wrote an article lat year for the Knights Templar Magazine concerning Templar sacred geometry, how they created their cross and how it relates to time. Although they butchered my article, digitized all the pictures I drew by hand with square and compass, took out all references to Hermes (even though his name is in the title) and messed up the picture numbers, you get the idea. Starts on page 18. Chivalric Symbols of Hermeticism and the Geometry of Time. https://issuu.com/knightstemplar/docs/0324

I dont want to toot my own horn (although nobody else will so I guess its up to me...), but this is something I take a great interest in. I live in Florence , AZ ta boot.......(well, 20 min from Florence w/o giving my exact location). Id love to help in any way I can. Sacred Geometry is a forte of mine......

Its clear to me that the LUE is very Masonic in nature. But it looks like no map Ive ever seen and most Masonic stuff Ive focused on deals with internal gold, not physical gold....so Im currently at a loss.

Btw Mr. Brewer, if you read this......I probably wouldnt be a Mason without your book. Thank you. It changed my life for the better in more ways than one. I have a deep respect for you and hope to meet you in Moon Lake. Thank you for the adventures.
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"What our team calls the template is a geometric map overlay based on the 47th problem of Euclid. All Masons are taught that puzzle but I've yet to meet one that acts like he knows what I'm talking about when discussing Mason Geometry."

Try me.

The 47th is really a proof of another mans work, Pythagorus and his theorum. Pythagorus provided the theorum. Euclid, the proof. BUT, these are the ratios and patters (and trig formulas) that created the world..........literally. The deeper you look, the more the patterns of life are geometrical....following a pattern.

I wrote an article lat year for the Knights Templar Magazine concerning Templar sacred geometry, how they created their cross and how it relates to time. Although they butchered my article, digitized all the pictures I drew by hand with square and compass, took out all references to Hermes (even though his name is in the title) and messed up the picture numbers, you get the idea. Starts on page 18. Chivalric Symbols of Hermeticism and the Geometry of Time. https://issuu.com/knightstemplar/docs/0324

I dont want to toot my own horn (although nobody else will so I guess its up to me...), but this is something I take a great interest in. I live in Florence , AZ ta boot.......(well, 20 min from Florence w/o giving my exact location). Id love to help in any way I can. Sacred Geometry is a forte of mine......

Its clear to me that the LUE is very Masonic in nature. But it looks like no map Ive ever seen and most Masonic stuff Ive focused on deals with internal gold, not physical gold....so Im currently at a loss.

Btw Mr. Brewer, if you read this......I probably wouldnt be a Mason without your book. Thank you. It changed my life for the better in more ways than one. I have a deep respect for you and hope to meet you in Moon Lake. Thank you for the adventures.
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Cuz, Probably didn't think a Mason was interested in discussing the LUE. Yes I know Euclid was double checking all the work of the Greek deep thinkers who played with the Golden Mean.. I haven't time to look at your URL now, but I have a Mason son, and have a large Masonic Library and years of KT magazines. Maybe you would like to know, I live just a few miles from Albert Pike's home on the Little Mo.. Two of the families who knew Pike, one was the carpenter that built his home, had a grandson, one of our neighbors and told lot of what he was told by his Grandpa about PIke's short stay in the mountains he died not too many years ago at 104. I may be the only person still alive that knows the location of Pike's house, yes it was not a small cabin as said in history books. Pike was ran out of the country by a turn coat Rebel, Unionized guerilla, who robbed him of 40,000 in small gold coins. I traced the robber's family to OK and found some of the coins. Pike was a Knight Templar of the old breed. I'm glad to have you aboard here. Are you a pilot? Hope to see you in Utah, if I can make it.
HBBB

 

[cuzimloony]

Cuz, Probably didn't think a Mason was interested in discussing the LUE. Yes I know Euclid was double checking all the work of the Greek deep thinkers who played with the Golden Mean.. I haven't time to look at your URL now, but I have a Mason son, and have a large Masonic Library and years of KT magazines. Maybe you would like to know, I live just a few miles from Albert Pike's home on the Little Mo.. Two of the families who knew Pike, one was the carpenter that built his home, had a grandson, one of our neighbors and told lot of what he was told by his Grandpa about PIke's short stay in the mountains he died not too many years ago at 104. I may be the only person still alive that knows the location of Pike's house, yes it was not a small cabin as said in history books. Pike was ran out of the country by a turn coat Rebel, Unionized guerilla, who robbed him of 40,000 in small gold coins. I traced the robber's family to OK and found some of the coins. Pike was a Knight Templar of the old breed. I'm glad to have you aboard here. Are you a pilot? Hope to see you in Utah, if I can make it.
HBBB

"Pike was run out by a turncoat rebel" Those damn Yankees!!!

That was a cool story about Pike, thank you for sharing. I hope someday to be able to make it to those mountains. Most of my mountain time has been spent in the Appalachians (from NC to PA), and now in and around the Superstition Mountains. Funny enough, I used to live near Dent's Run. Im from PA. But I was oblivous to the KGC and hadn't read your book yet. Now I live near the Sups...... It's like Im always so close, yet so far......

To answer your question, unfortunately I am not a pilot. I am however an engineer, avid jeeper and a hiker. Where the jeep can't get, my feet usually can. I spend a lot of time out there in the Sups (and south of them a stone's throw from Reymert.....) There is a whole series of mines, stage routes (even forgotten ones) all around Florence/Reymert/The old "Queen Creek" stage stop (which is a long forgotten stage stop/pioneer town I found the other day in between Hewitt and Whitlow canyons) that I like to explore.

FYI Heart Mountain is a doozy to get to now. Both of the hearts now have a bulldozer scar going right up the middle and the horse is almost all but gone.

Another FYI, the strage circular spider-like pattern in the center of the Adamsville cemetary has a sign marker now. They're calling it a Wagon Wheel memorial.

Thanks for the reply Mr. Brewer. Fingers crossed you make it to Moon Lake. Ill be the guy sleeping on the ground next to his motorcycle begging for autographs...... See you there.

Now returning this to the previously scheduled programming..... the LUE.