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[Oregon Viking]

Undercoating only protects the frame and underbody, applying it to the exhaust system is not done because it will simply burn off in short order.

Full stainless exhaust !!

 

[Oregon Viking]

Oh no..... Damnit !!

 

[Chilli]

Don't see many undercoating places anymore.
Salt isn't feeding as much until temps break the freezing mark. That suggests washing it off when above freezing.

"Rustproofing" didn't ensure door drain holes ect. were in working condition after the tarry substance was sprayed in panels.
Trapping moisture did happen in areas.
Holes and plugs were used too.
Salt in a frame hole doesn't care if the outside of the frame is tarred.
But there were cars undercoated the owners of which didn't worry about washing salt off when temps broke freezing because they were "rust proofed".
Which of course resulted in severe rusting.

We have an area of the midwest called the rust belt for multiple reasons.
One of which is salt being dumped on the roads.
Salt too when temps are low enough ; help ice harden. Home made ice cream making employs salt. (Not for flavoring.)
So when temps are cold sand gets mixed with salt. Evidenced inside wheel wells where rustproofing can get stripped in a season if enough sand is driven on.

Better to sand and salt then pack snow into ice and create inches of ice.
We been doing that on my main road as the county seems apprehensive about scraping the repaired areas resurfaced last summer. Slot car two tracks worn into the ice.
Kinda like my dirt road I maintain. L.o.l.. But on our road you can see the salt being tracked onto it at it's end at the main road. Farther with time as winter season progresses.

A co-worker and I used to build pipes for wash systems on one worksite. 2 inch by several feet long with nozzles of types and location of our choosing.
Co-worker was considering making a set of pipes to drive over in winter to wash the underside of vehicles.
Some car washes have a single at the entrance.
One of which I use and drive slow over in the newer truck.
The 2008 plow truck you step carefully on the tree-bar on the driver side to get in ; and note the flex.
Don't look at the rest. And especially underneath.

Interesting insight to where you live. 👍

 

[Oregon Viking]

Local discount grocery find, great brand let's see !!! The moose made me do it !!

 

[Chilli]

Undercoating only protects the frame and underbody, applying it to the exhaust system is not done because it will simply burn off in short order.

Yeah makes sense. We never have to deal with that issue here. I do remember when my muffler on my Seltos needed replacing just 2 yrs into its warranty because of rust. 2 yr old muffler was stuffed and would have cost $1200 Aussie outside of warranty. Which prompted me to look up wether others had issues and I saw some in the US complain about early muffler and entire systems demise due to salt. Something about them was sub par at the time causing issues way before others did. Must have been crap cheap metal they were using for them at the time.
I know guys here used to use fish oil sprays under their 4wds which they would drive through water and on beaches. Other than that we don't have issues like you guys do.

 

[Oregon Viking]

There is some drone footage also, one of our" floating on an inner tube in the summer rivers" I turned the sound off as I'm a local and probably already know what he is tellin' us !

 

[Chilli]

Full stainless exhaust !!

I had that on my 83 XE Falcon.

 

[Chilli]

Oh no..... Damnit !!

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And don't forget the batteries.

 

[Gare]

Afternoon Tnetters

 

[LauraLou56]

Hike was extra crisp today but always beautiful

 

[Oregon Viking]

I had that on my 83 XE Falcon.

That car probably worth a pretty penny now.
Stainless is great and if you have headers ,ceramic coating inside and out. A few hundred degrees cooler under the hood and ceramic coating..... very important on the inside.

 

[Chilli]

That car probably worth a pretty penny now.
Stainless is great and if you have headers ,ceramic coating inside and out. A few hundred degrees cooler under the hood and ceramic coating..... very important on the inside.

It had Extractors and full 2 1/2 inch stainless all the way with a Redback sports muffler. I got to the point that I was bypassing O2 sensors and other things that were no longer available, even at wreckers and gave up in the end and sold it. 🫤
It was a cool car.
When I had it there were numerous others on the road but around the same time I reluctantly sold mine I noticed others disappearing too, to the point now its rare to see one. They all for sure faced the same issues of parts. The wreckers at the time were getting more money crushing them and selling them as scrap rather than holding onto them for parts so lots of old cars went off of the road due to that.

 

[pepperj]

Yeah makes sense. We never have to deal with that issue here. I do remember when my muffler on my Seltos needed replacing just 2 yrs into its warranty because of rust. 2 yr old muffler was stuffed and would have cost $1200 Aussie outside of warranty. Which prompted me to look up wether others had issues and I saw some in the US complain about early muffler and entire systems demise due to salt. Something about them was sub par at the time causing issues way before others did. Must have been crap cheap metal they were using for them at the time.
I know guys here used to use fish oil sprays under their 4wds which they would drive through water and on beaches. Other than that we don't have issues like you guys do.

The Tundra is going on 16 yrs old. The exhaust system had a break at the hanger.
Buddy welded it up again $25. No rust on the system.
Then again Toyota might have put a bit of effort into the manufacturing.
The truck never sees a was or so rarely I could say every 3-5 yrs.
The box is dented and needs attention above the wheel walls for rust.
Everywhere else it's good.

 

[pepperj]

It had Extractors and full 2 1/2 inch stainless all the way with a Redback sports muffler. I got to the point that I was bypassing O2 sensors and other things that were no longer available, even at wreckers and gave up in the end and sold it. 🫤
It was a cool car.
When I had it there were numerous others on the road but around the same time I reluctantly sold mine I noticed others disappearing too, to the point now its rare to see one. They all for sure faced the same issues of parts. The wreckers at the time were getting more money crushing them and selling them as scrap rather than holding onto them for parts so lots of old cars went off of the road due to that.

When the COVID scam happened every base metal sky rocketed.
They were paying $800-1200 for scrap vehicles.
Then after the market dried up, the used car market was left without part vehicles on anything that was older.
It forces people to buy the newer crap.
Win-win for the manufacturer and newer used market.

 

[Chilli]

When the COVID scam happened every base metal sky rocketed.
They were paying $800-1200 for scrap vehicles.
Then after the market dried up, the used car market was left without part vehicles on anything that was older.
It forces people to buy the newer crap.
Win-win for the manufacturer and newer used market.

I imagine that happened here as well. I sold my XE around 2012. The wreckers I used to go to closed around Covid time I think. Its mostly the old cars pre O2 sensors and other sensors you see still around now n then. Those in between the current new cars and those oldies dropped like flies. Your more likely to see cars pre 1980s now than those after it. Its more surprising these days to see a car from the 80s on the road than something from the 60s.

 

[DizzyDigger]

Buenos tardes y'all....

Sun was out today.....rare thing. Slept through most of the day, but did
get a chance to burn my eyes a bit...staring in wonderment at that big light
in the sky.

OV..got to prospect the Smith once with a Tnet member...busted bedrock out
for a couple hours and came up with bupkis..

 

[pepperj]

Buenos tardes y'all....

Sun was out today.....rare thing. Slept through most of the day, but did
get a chance to burn my eyes a bit...staring in wonderment at that big light
in the sky.

OV..got to prospect the Smith once with a Tnet member...busted bedrock out
for a couple hours and came up with bupkis..View attachment 2238779

You know if you went a little deeper.......

 

[Oregon Viking]

Buenos tardes y'all....

Sun was out today.....rare thing. Slept through most of the day, but did
get a chance to burn my eyes a bit...staring in wonderment at that big light
in the sky.

OV..got to prospect the Smith once with a Tnet member...busted bedrock out
for a couple hours and came up with bupkis..View attachment 2238779

Hands and pans only now but I have heard.... that people have sneaked a ways up certain tributaries. They might have stashed a sluice box up in the hills also.

Most of the gold produced in Del Norte County has come from placer-mining operations along the Smith River and its tributaries. These operations include the placer mines of Hurdy Gurdy, Monkey, Myrtle, and Craigs Creeks and the French Hill area. Gold has been obtained by mining the present stream gravels, terrace gravels adjacent to the present streams, and patches of the so-called Klamath "oldland cycle" gravels at such places as French Hill and Haines Flat. The terrace and "oldland" gravels were mined by hydraulic methods. The principal period of mining was from the 1850s through the 1870s, but there has been small-scale intermittent work ever since. The estimated total production is 40,000 ounces of gold. Chrome ore also was mined at French Hill during World Wars I and II.

 

[oldmxrat]

Yeah makes sense. We never have to deal with that issue here. I do remember when my muffler on my Seltos needed replacing just 2 yrs into its warranty because of rust. 2 yr old muffler was stuffed and would have cost $1200 Aussie outside of warranty. Which prompted me to look up wether others had issues and I saw some in the US complain about early muffler and entire systems demise due to salt. Something about them was sub par at the time causing issues way before others did. Must have been crap cheap metal they were using for them at the time.
I know guys here used to use fish oil sprays under their 4wds which they would drive through water and on beaches. Other than that we don't have issues like you guys do.

The thing that causes exhaust systems to rust out the most is starting a vehicle and not running it up to full operating temp. Condensation is an exhaust destroyer, in any climate.

 

[pepperj]

The thing that causes exhaust systems to rust out the most is starting a vehicle and not running it up to full operating temp. Condensation is an exhaust destroyer, in any climate.

THANK YOU!
I'm going frame this post for future use.

You see I have a heavy foot.
When the driver that sits next to me starts in about it....
"Well dear I'm just bringing the pipes up to the optimum temperature to get rid of the condensation"
Frigging brilliant 👏 👌 👍