1652 OAK TREE SHILLING NOE-3 VERY RARE

[steelheadwill]

1652 OAK TREE SHILLING NOE-3 'VERY RARE'

Hi All, I haven't been out hunting lately, got a couple snowstorms up here in NH, and it's been cold & windy
Yesterday, I braved the weather and returned to the site where I found my Pine Tree Shilling. within 10 minutes I found another Mass Shilling! This looks like an Oak Tree, it was setting just under the surface among the rocks, tree side up. as with most of my surface finds, the side facing up is toasted, I can still see the "M" of Masathvsets, and a few of the spikey branches. The Reverse is a little better, date & XII clear,
(which isn't the minting date, for political reasons, most Mass coinage used this date from 1660-1690, I think the Oaks were 1670s)
you can read about this interesting story here: http://www.coins.nd.edu/ColCoin/ColCoinContents/Contents01.html
Anyone know what this toasty 22mm Copper might be?
thanks to Dwayne Suehno for the Woods Hibernia Farthing ID
Well, Just shows there's quite a few of these old silvers left out there!
A Big Thanks To Mike at WWW.WOODLANDETECTORS.COM , Without his help I wouldn't even be Diggin!
HH Everyone! Herbie.

 

[steelheadwill]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

Super cool Herbie! Big Congrats bud!

Rob, Bubba, and RTDE3,
Appreciate your replies!
Hoping to see you bringin in bacon this season!
Best Digs to you all!

 

[Sniffy]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

your just a regular arborist. DANG!

 

[steelheadwill]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

I think it's NOE-3. That's definitely the closest I can see from what was available.

1652 MASSACHUSETTS
"OAK TREE" SHILLING -
NOE 3

Variety equivalents: Crosby 9-G

Rarity: Very Rare

http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/massachusetts_silver/oak_tree_silver/oak_tree_noe_03.html

IP, that certainly looks like a match.
I don't think it has anything to do with which dies were used, but ain't it strange how the obverse (Tree side, correct?) is struck off center in the same way,
and the edge voids are similar
"Very Rare" , is not the next designation 'unique' ?
Great Stuff! can't thank ya enuff
Looking forward to seeing some Dirty Finds!

Even though I see a couple things that look iffy... like the right side of the "X" appearing to dip a little lower on one coin, I would guess it's just the pictures. It's so close I think it has to be it. Being struck off center doesn't mean much, but it is true that indent on yours could be the top of the planchet crack. I actually said that in my post but deleted it because I don't think anyone would be able to say for certain.

Here's a few sales from some nice ones... but any example is still a great coin.

http://www.stacksarchive.com/viewcat.php?auction=ST1005b&heading=11423&headinglevel=4

I'm going over to browse the auctions now, maybe at the top of that hill will be a collector grade example
Thanks for the Pointers

 

[steelheadwill]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

your just a regular arborist. DANG!

The last friday in April is too far away

 

[jimmatt_43]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

Congrats on a great hunt

 

[matt092079]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

You're diggin' those like most of us dig a zincoln lincoln! Congrats on a superb find.

 

[Threshold]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

Amazin find

 

[flakefinder]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

I read about your first one you found and thought man that a awesome fine, then you do it again your the man Congrats Banner or better

 

[romeo-1]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

Unreal! Huge congrats on this landmark find!!!

 

[DMN]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

SHW, you may recall I told you to find the other coins with the trees on them. I was joking then but apparently you took me seriously enough to do it! Astoundingly terrific find. I imagine you're going to go over that site with a fine toothed comb...slowly, meticulously.
You let us know when you get the full set. Seems like it almost a foregone conclusion!
Congrats and a Banner vote, once again.

 

[DMN]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

I think it's NOE-3. That's definitely the closest I can see from what was available.

1652 MASSACHUSETTS
"OAK TREE" SHILLING -
NOE 3

Variety equivalents: Crosby 9-G

Rarity: Very Rare

http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/massachusetts_silver/oak_tree_silver/oak_tree_noe_03.html

IP, that certainly looks like a match.
I don't think it has anything to do with which dies were used, but ain't it strange how the obverse (Tree side, correct?) is struck off center in the same way,
and the edge voids are similar
"Very Rare" , is not the next designation 'unique' ?
Great Stuff! can't thank ya enuff
Looking forward to seeing some Dirty Finds!

Even though I see a couple things that look iffy... like the right side of the "X" appearing to dip a little lower on one coin, I would guess it's just the pictures. It's so close I think it has to be it. Being struck off center doesn't mean much, but it is true that indent on yours could be the top of the planchet crack. I actually said that in my post but deleted it because I don't think anyone would be able to say for certain.

Here's a few sales from some nice ones... but any example is still a great coin.

http://www.stacksarchive.com/viewcat.php?auction=ST1005b&heading=11423&headinglevel=4

I'm going over to browse the auctions now, maybe at the top of that hill will be a collector grade example
Thanks for the Pointers

Ahem......like the ones you found aren't?

 

[Iron Patch]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

I think it's NOE-3. That's definitely the closest I can see from what was available.

1652 MASSACHUSETTS
"OAK TREE" SHILLING -
NOE 3

Variety equivalents: Crosby 9-G

Rarity: Very Rare

http://www.coinfacts.com/colonial_coins/massachusetts_silver/oak_tree_silver/oak_tree_noe_03.html

IP, that certainly looks like a match.
I don't think it has anything to do with which dies were used, but ain't it strange how the obverse (Tree side, correct?) is struck off center in the same way,
and the edge voids are similar
"Very Rare" , is not the next designation 'unique' ?
Great Stuff! can't thank ya enuff
Looking forward to seeing some Dirty Finds!

Even though I see a couple things that look iffy... like the right side of the "X" appearing to dip a little lower on one coin, I would guess it's just the pictures. It's so close I think it has to be it. Being struck off center doesn't mean much, but it is true that indent on yours could be the top of the planchet crack. I actually said that in my post but deleted it because I don't think anyone would be able to say for certain.

Here's a few sales from some nice ones... but any example is still a great coin.

http://www.stacksarchive.com/viewcat.php?auction=ST1005b&heading=11423&headinglevel=4

I'm going over to browse the auctions now, maybe at the top of that hill will be a collector grade example
Thanks for the Pointers

Ahem......like the ones you found aren't?

Yep, they're all collector grade, just not all 5 figure coins.

 

[Woodland Detectors]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

I'm still speechless Herbie. Once again you have come up with yet another banner recovery. I'm happy for you buddy. You have my vote here, and it will also make banner at www.justgodetecting.com

 

[gleaner1]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

Ha...I was the guy that said not another to be seen for a good long time. Man, was I wrong. Stupendous banner hit

 

[oldsalty19]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

excellent finds.

 

[JimDon]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

Two once in a life time finds in a month! That just ain't fair! Just for that I am hitting you with a BANNER!

 

[BuckleBoy]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

Banner nomination sent.

 

[jeff of pa]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

Dosn't look like the ground was too nice to
them, But Nice Finds

 

[dfx willy]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE

ther ya go herbie! my buddy has a spot in a neiboring state were these have been found. (ive witnessed it) and i know that there was more than one found. go back and go slow. willy

 

[Deepdiger60]

Re: Another Mass Shilling!! OAK TREE