Oak Island Treasure Revelations

[Cryptid1990]

The Memorial stone carved for Captain Kidd is still there on Cape Breton Island.

The stone was carved centuries after William Kidd died. Are you seriously using this as evidence he visited that region?

 

[Oak Island Sage]

The stone was carved centuries after William Kidd died. Are you seriously using this as evidence he visited that region?

Cryptid1990, perhaps you would care to elaborate on that statement, what supportive evidence can you now provide, like who carved it and when please,
By the way. I have never once claimed that Captain William Kidd ever visited Cape Breton, so you maybe you should get your facts right before making these kind of remarks. " A closed mouth catches no flies" Confucius
Oak Island Sage

 

[Oak Island Sage]

Oak island sage:

Your ever changing word salad replies mirrors many others here who have claimed to "know" where the fictional oak island treasure was buried.

Also, please post your correspondence from the Prometheus Company where they offered you actual money to come and become one of the "experts" who have appeared on the show.

That would at least show that the laginas are running out of tall tales from their script writers and need new fiction.

I would have surmised that offer would have been more than what was possible to be earned from a non-selling book on an internet store.

Then again, maybe your book is outselling the exponential number of other oak island fairy tale books?

If that was the case however, why would you still be promoting the book here?

Hi truthbetold, personally speaking I don't like your disparaging remarks, and as for putting a confidential agreement in the public domain I'll pass on that. I don't care one iota whether or not you believe me about anything. You appear to be a person who craves a feeling of importance, perhaps you should read Dale Carnalidge's book "How to win friends and influence people"

Oak Island Sage

 

[Oak Island Sage]

On the other hand, the presence of those layers could mean that if they were very lucky in an uncribbed shaft to that depth, they could get a few more feet at slightly less risk.

--GT

Here is my schematic drawing of the shaft and linked tunnels beneath Oak Island based on my own hypothesis as illustrated in my book.

Oak Island Sage

 

[chalkoutline]

Here is my schematic drawing of the shaft and linked tunnels beneath Oak Island based on my own hypothesis as illustrated in my book.

Oak Island Sage
View attachment 2243439

I have to ask...
How long do you estimate it took to complete this network?

 

[TruthbeTold]

Hi truthbetold, personally speaking I don't like your disparaging remarks, and as for putting a confidential agreement in the public domain I'll pass on that. I don't care one iota whether or not you believe me about anything. You appear to be a person who craves a feeling of importance, perhaps you should read Dale Carnalidge's book "How to win friends and influence people"

Oak Island Sage

In other words you have nothing to prove anything.

When asked hard questions about your evidence or otherwise, you generate word salads attempting to misdirect the attention away from your empty claims.

We have all seen and heard this record before in regards to the long running oak island scam history.

 

[TruthbeTold]

Here is my schematic drawing of the shaft and linked tunnels beneath Oak Island based on my own hypothesis as illustrated in my book.

Oak Island Sage
View attachment 2243439

Total disproven nonsense.

It's obvious that you have nothing but fiction about the island to post.

I will not waste any more time responding to your nonsense.

Welcome to my IGNORE list.

 

[BennyV]

Hi truthbetold, personally speaking I don't like your disparaging remarks, and as for putting a confidential agreement in the public domain I'll pass on that. I don't care one iota whether or not you believe me about anything. You appear to be a person who craves a feeling of importance, perhaps you should read Dale Carnalidge's book "How to win friends and influence people"

Oak Island Sage

Don’t waste your time. He’s a troll on this topic.

He doesn’t believe in it, so no one else can.

 

[Armchair detective]

OIS - you might find the tunnel map in Some Notes RE Construction ... Post 197 of some interest. If real, how would they fit into your theory?
I offer no comments on its validity.

 

[Oak Island Sage]

Total disproven nonsense.

It's obvious that you have nothing but fiction about the island to post.

I will not waste any more time responding to your nonsense.

Welcome to my IGNORE list.

TruthbeTold, I am delighted to hear that I qualify.

If you are a troll it explains a lot, and the impression I get is that if you ever have an intelligent thought it would die of lonelyness.
Oak Island Sage.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

TruthbeTold, I am delighted to hear that I qualify.

If you are a troll it explains a lot, and the impression I get is that if you ever have an intelligent thought it would die of lonelyness.
Oak Island Sage.

Please end the insults now!

 

[Oak Island Sage]

I have to ask...
How long do you estimate it took to complete this network?

Hi chalkoutline That is impossible to estimate accurately because we don't know how many people were involved, or if the several shafts in the extensive net work were being excavated simultaneously. The window of opportunity starts 1691 and ends 1699, so I would think two or three years at least. You have also consider the huge amount of surface work that was involved in the covert mining operation.

Oak Island Sage

 

[Oak Island Sage]

OIS - you might find the tunnel map in Some Notes RE Construction ... Post 197 of some interest. If real, how would they fit into your theory?
I offer no comments on its validity.

Hi Armchair detective, I not sure how to find that post 197, but if you can show it I would be pleased to give you my honest opinion.

Oak Island Sage

 

[chalkoutline]

I have to ask...
How long do you estimate it took to complete this network?

so I would think two or three years

Thank you for this estimate but you may want to sit down...

Mentioned in the threads "Could the boys have dug a 30ft hole?", the earliest the depositors would have arrived from England was May 1st. To avoid the Oak Island bad weather, they would have needed the depart Oak Island around Sep 15th.
Since you estimated it took them 2 or 3 years, they didn't depart in Sep but stayed the winter.

Question 1: When does oak island ns receive the most rain?
Answer: Based on regional data for Nova Scotia, particularly around the Halifax area near Oak Island, the highest amount of precipitation often occurs in late autumn and early winter (specifically November where they might see 3.8" to 6" of rain), although significant rain can also occur during tropical storm remnants in late summer/early autumn.

Question 2: What effects would 3.8" to 6" of rain have on a 100ft vertical shaft without wall support?
Answer: A 3.8-inch to 6-inch rainfall on a 100-foot vertical shaft without wall support (unlined/unsupported) would almost certainly lead to catastrophic, progressive collapse.

Question 3: What effects would a harsh winter have on a 100ft vertical shaft without wall support?
Answaer: A100ft unsupported vertical shaft in a harsh winter faces severe, likely catastrophic, structural instability due to freeze-thaw cycles, moisture infiltration, and ice wedge pressure. The lack of lining allows moisture to seep into soil/rock cracks, where freezing expands, causing significant spalling, soil degradation, and high-risk wall collapse.

My take away....
Skilled minors arriving on an island to dig a network of shafts and tunnels spanning more than a year would be well aware the effect weather would have on a deep vertical shaft without wall support.

As such, they would never attempt such an endevor without cribbing.

I just climbed out of the proverbial hole i dug.
-CO

 

[robertk]

I not sure how to find that post 197,

There is a post number on every post, up in the right corner of the box surrounding the post. For example, on this post it will be #255. Just scroll back until you find the one you're looking for.

 

[3cylbill]

Don’t waste your time. He’s a troll on this topic.

He doesn’t believe in it, so no one else can.

Truth be told is a....FICTIONAL character

 

[Oak Island Sage]

Thank you for this estimate but you may want to sit down...

Mentioned in the threads "Could the boys have dug a 30ft hole?", the earliest the depositors would have arrived from England was May 1st. To avoid the Oak Island bad weather, they would have needed the depart Oak Island around Sep 15th.
Since you estimated it took them 2 or 3 years, they didn't depart in Sep but stayed the winter.

Question 1: When does oak island ns receive the most rain?
Answer: Based on regional data for Nova Scotia, particularly around the Halifax area near Oak Island, the highest amount of precipitation often occurs in late autumn and early winter (specifically November where they might see 3.8" to 6" of rain), although significant rain can also occur during tropical storm remnants in late summer/early autumn.

Question 2: What effects would 3.8" to 6" of rain have on a 100ft vertical shaft without wall support?
Answer: A 3.8-inch to 6-inch rainfall on a 100-foot vertical shaft without wall support (unlined/unsupported) would almost certainly lead to catastrophic, progressive collapse.

Question 3: What effects would a harsh winter have on a 100ft vertical shaft without wall support?
Answaer: A100ft unsupported vertical shaft in a harsh winter faces severe, likely catastrophic, structural instability due to freeze-thaw cycles, moisture infiltration, and ice wedge pressure. The lack of lining allows moisture to seep into soil/rock cracks, where freezing expands, causing significant spalling, soil degradation, and high-risk wall collapse.

My take away....
Skilled minors arriving on an island to dig a network of shafts and tunnels spanning more than a year would be well aware the effect weather would have on a deep vertical shaft without wall support.

As such, they would never attempt such an endevor without cribbing.

I just climbed out of the proverbial hole i dug.
-CO

Hi chalkoutline, I hate to disillusion you but the top of the Money Pit was covered over with flat stones in an overlapping pattern like a sloping roof, the first upper platforms were utilized as dry sleeping quarters. This means that the walls of the deep shafts that were constructed in the subterranean network were kept dry, and were not affected by the rain due to this surface covering method.
You may now wish stop digging, sit down yourself, and quit while I'm ahead.

Oak Island Sage

 

[chalkoutline]

Hi chalkoutline, I hate to disillusion you but the top of the Money Pit was covered over with flat stones in an overlapping pattern like a sloping roof, the first upper platforms were utilized as dry sleeping quarters. This means that the walls of the deep shafts that were constructed in the subterranean network were kept dry, and were not affected by the rain due to this surface covering method.
You may now wish stop digging, sit down yourself, and quit while I'm ahead.

Oak Island Sage

I heard about the flag stones but they were just laid flat so i asked Google.

Google AI says...
Early accounts of the Oak Island Money Pit (first discovered in 1795) indicate that the shaft was NOT covered with a sloped roof of flagstones, but rather that layers of flat paving stones (flagstones) and wooden platforms were found at regular intervals (roughly every 10 feet) during the initial, shallow excavations

Please provide your source for a slopy roof.

 

[chalkoutline]

Also, when exactly did they place the slopy flagstone roof on the Money Pit?

The flagstone layer i heard about was on top of a filled shaft. So was the shaft filled when they added the slopy roof?

 

[chalkoutline]

Also, when exactly did they place the slopy flagstone roof on the Money Pit?

The flagstone layer i heard about was on top of a filled shaft. So was the shaft filled when they added the slopy roof?

So here is where im coming from...
It seems to me that the MP would need to stay open until most if not all of the tunnel network is complete. Since it took 2 or 3 years as you estimated, than the shaft would be exposed to the rain and winter.
They could easily cover the MP shaft when it rained but the rain would still permeate down raising the water table and causing catastrophic issues.

Then you still have the catastrophic issues during the harsh winters on oak island. So how did they deal with that?