Oak Island Treasure Revelations

[chalkoutline]

Here's why i wanted to get the distances correct...
The attached diagram shows a side view of Oak Island. Elevation is 35ft. Its about 400ft to South Shore and 50ft deep at 300ft off South Shore where bubbles from the flood tunnels created ice holes.

A tunnel 2.5ftx4ftx 700ft has a volume of 7000 cubic feet. This is roughly the same volume of a 12ftx12ftx50ft vertcal shaft.
If the air lock is already in place when the tunnel is exploded to flood the tunnel, the airlock of 7000 cubic feet of air plus the air in the vertical shaft would keep the seawater from rushing in.

Now add the other 3 tunnels which would need to be blown in the correct sequence to fill each vertical shaft/airlock properly.
This could take a long time to equilibrate if it equilibrates at all.

Maybe the finger drains act as a vent.

If my calculations are correct, when the 700ft tunnel is breach the water will rush in compressing the air but will stop around 400ft never reaching the vertical shaft. The vertical shaft would have to have at least 35ft of empty shaft just for the water reach it.

Assuming all four tunnels are 700ft, the vertical shaft would have to have 140ft of empty shaft. So if the sealed airlick platform is located at 100ft, the shaft would need to be 240ft deep.

 

[Oak Island Sage]

The yellow picture of Oak Island showing five filter drains at South Shore is totally incorrect so don't used it, no wonder you get confused. If you instead use the blue picture of Oak Island you will see reference to a "stone triangle" that is the south shore where the tunnels head out to the offshore inlets.
The Smiths Cove four box filter drains were constructed using flat stones laid von top of layers of Coconut fibres and Eel grass, this was to try reduce the amount sand entering the tunnel 3/ descending to the Money Pit Sand Sump 4/. When the inlets were blasted up the miners had previously left the Cave pit 2/ open till last, this was to allow air to escape on the east side of the island to be replaces by inrushing sea water, this did not effect the stagnant water level 25 in the west bound tunnel 9/ shown on the CAD. The separate fuses would have been lit simultaneously. Although we were not there we can imagine that there were huge water spouts like depth charges, muffled sounds followed by whirlpools.

Oak Island Sage
BTW, If anyone wants my view point on 1/ The Cryptic ,message Stone. 2/ the Triangle of Beach stones. and 3/ The Captain Kidd Memorial Stone at Cape Breton, I will give my honest opinion.

Yeah I've wondered about that for years. Google maps and some other mapping services show Smith's Cove in a different spot from where it has traditionally been referred to by searchers. I hesitate to say one or the other is "wrong", but the searcher tradition, and where the finger drains and u-shaped structure were found, is the east beach (you could even see the dam that CoOI crew built on the satellite view that year). "South shore" is, I believe, the south coast of the east drumlin.

--GT

I must admit to seeing OI maps on the net with the wrong names myself, it can cause confusion, however I can assure you that I've been there and the original filter drains were discovered at Smiths Cove. The inlets were located off the South Shore, just ignore anything you may read to the contrary.

Oak Island Sage

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

So why not spend $20 and become a charter member then you can continue to do what you have set out to do is to flog a book about OI.
Seriously I'm starting to believe one thing, that you want all the rewards of sales and $20 is preventing that from happening.

(So much easier to just flog it in a post then apologizing for doing so-words are cheaper)

It's kind of like reading "SO MANY"posts about folks digging a hole, but they just can't reach that "I KNOW" treasure of tons of gold, because it's just a few feet more. This why they reach out for help-and they need this or that.
Bottom line of most if not all these posts have one objective, is to line the cotton pouch, better known as a pocket.

$20.00 allows members to only sell here, but once a website is mentioned where book is sold charter membership no longer applies, it is then supporting vendor issue.

 

[chalkoutline]

If my calculations are correct, when the 700ft tunnel is breach the water will rush in compressing the air but will stop around 400ft never reaching the vertical shaft. The vertical shaft would have to have at least 35ft of empty shaft just for the water reach it.

Assuming all four tunnels are 700ft, the vertical shaft would have to have 140ft of empty shaft. So if the sealed airlick platform is located at 100ft, the shaft would need to be 240ft deep.

Im still trying to figure out how this works...
Step 1. All tunnels are dry.

Step 2. The finger drains at Smith's Cove will let water in but since they are located close to sea level, there is not enough hydrostatic pressure to overcome the air lock at the bottom of the Money Pit. The mp remains one big airlock.

Step 3. If vertical shaft 2 or the mp are left open, the water coming in from Smith's Cove would flood to sea level and you would not be able to seal them and create the air lock shown in the OIS schematic. So they have to remain sealed.

Step 4. The four tunnels under South Shore would have to be blown in sequence. If blown at the same time, there would be a race condition where the first tunnel to get water down the tunnel creates an air-lock keeping water from the other three from filling.

Step 5. As already mentioned, the mp has to have enough empty shaft for the hydrostatic pressure (50ft at south shore) to compress the air and fillthe Money Pit. Quick estimate...the shaft needs to be 240ft.

Step 6. Once the sea water overcomes the MP air-lock, the hydrostatic pressure would push the water out through the finger drain.

My take away...
This will only work if the MP is 240ft deep.

 

[chalkoutline]

This will only work if the MP is 240ft deep.

BTW, if Google AI is correct and the ice holes were seen at 700ft off shore instead of 300ft, the MP would need to be at least 480ft deep.

 

[TruthbeTold]

Im still trying to figure out how this works...
Step 1. All tunnels are dry.

Step 2. The finger drains at Smith's Cove will let water in but since they are located close to sea level, there is not enough hydrostatic pressure to overcome the air lock at the bottom of the Money Pit. The mp remains one big airlock.

Step 3. If vertical shaft 2 or the mp are left open, the water coming in from Smith's Cove would flood to sea level and you would not be able to seal them and create the air lock shown in the OIS schematic. So they have to remain sealed.

Step 4. The four tunnels under South Shore would have to be blown in sequence. If blown at the same time, there would be a race condition where the first tunnel to get water down the tunnel creates an air-lock keeping water from the other three from filling.

Step 5. As already mentioned, the mp has to have enough empty shaft for the hydrostatic pressure (50ft at south shore) to compress the air and fillthe Money Pit. Quick estimate...the shaft needs to be 240ft.

Step 6. Once the sea water overcomes the MP air-lock, the hydrostatic pressure would push the water out through the finger drain.

My take away...
This will only work if the MP is 240ft deep.

It's a proven fact that fingers drains never existed along with the associated fictional flood tunnels.

Refer to Dunfield's letter posted previously.

The tunnel diagram with "airlocks" that ois posted earlier before I put him on my ignore list is total nonsense. All of the digging on the island to date would have exposed that long ago if it existed.

ois is just another in a long list of fiction writers hoping to make a buck on the long running oak island scam.

 

[TruthbeTold]

BTW, i started down this rabbit hole because in OIS post #236, OIS stated the dye came out on South Shore proving the four vertical shafts creatng the ice holes.
But the diagram provided in previous post indicates these were box drains.

If finding the truth proves me wrong, im okay with that.

Dye has flowed out all over the island shores when dye tests have been attempted. Something to do with naturally occurring underground waterways.

 

[GravelTeeth]

BTW, if Google AI is correct and the ice holes were seen at 700ft off shore instead of 300ft, the MP would need to be at least 480ft deep.

CO, have you read the MacPhie/Wonnacott report from 2006? I don't know if any of that data will affect your formulae, but it's interesting. For one thing, the chart at p.9 makes it seem that the lawrencetown till layer is enormous, much larger than I was imagining. And there's another chart at p.14 that appears to show, unless I am reading it wrong, that water depth around the island is more like 30 feet than 50.

--GT

 

[chalkoutline]

CO, have you read the MacPhie/Wonnacott report from 2006? I don't know if any of that data will affect your formulae, but it's interesting. For one thing, the chart at p.9 makes it seem that the lawrencetown till layer is enormous, much larger than I was imagining. And there's another chart at p.14 that appears to show, unless I am reading it wrong, that water depth around the island is more like 30 feet than 50.

--GT

GT,
No i haven't read the book but my calculations are not dependent on the till but are dependent on hydrostatc pressure.

Using 30ft makes it actually worse because the pressure at 30ft is less than 50ft making it harder for the water to compress the aiir in the tunnels and vertcal shaft to create the airlocks described.

Basically, you have 700ft of tunnel x4 and 80ft of vertical shaft full of air when the tunnels get blown open.
The water rushing in has to compress all that air into a 10ft to 20ft airlock below a sealed platform in the vertical shaft.
At 50ft, the hydrostatic pressure can only compress the air in the 700ft tunnel to 300ft.

Also, since the air is pushed up under the sealed platforms, the bubbles are not going to travel down to the tunnel entry point and find their way to the atlantic.
if that could actually happen, there would be no air/bubbles left for Dan Blankenship to see 200 years later.
I suspect he saw a polynyas
-CO

 

[Carl-NC]

Unless the tunnels are dug in unfractured bedrock, they will have surfaces that are air and water permeable. There is no way you can create air locks that don't eventually (and probably fairly quickly) collapse.

Also, tunnels dug under the ocean will definitely leak, and badly.

 

[Oak Island Sage]

Im still trying to figure out how this works...
Step 1. All tunnels are dry.

Step 2. The finger drains at Smith's Cove will let water in but since they are located close to sea level, there is not enough hydrostatic pressure to overcome the air lock at the bottom of the Money Pit. The mp remains one big airlock.

Step 3. If vertical shaft 2 or the mp are left open, the water coming in from Smith's Cove would flood to sea level and you would not be able to seal them and create the air lock shown in the OIS schematic. So they have to remain sealed.

Step 4. The four tunnels under South Shore would have to be blown in sequence. If blown at the same time, there would be a race condition where the first tunnel to get water down the tunnel creates an air-lock keeping water from the other three from filling.

Step 5. As already mentioned, the mp has to have enough empty shaft for the hydrostatic pressure (50ft at south shore) to compress the air and fillthe Money Pit. Quick estimate...the shaft needs to be 240ft.

Step 6. Once the sea water overcomes the MP air-lock, the hydrostatic pressure would push the water out through the finger drain.

My take away...
This will only work if the MP is 240ft deep.

Perhaps you are over thinking this, please look again at the CAD.

1/ I did try to explain to you that when the mine was being used to receive treasure it was completely Dry. When flooding was eventually required it was achieved efficiently by not sealing the Cave In Pit shaft, this opening would simply allow any air in the tunnels to freely escape without disturbing the Smiths Cove Filter drains at all. Those filter drains were later connected to deal with with the powerful incoming waves on the exposed Smith Cove beach, it was done after the mine was already flooded. The drains were designed to filter sea water filled with sand when entering at high tide levels, not to let air out.
2/ ALL the tunnels on Oak Island were descending either from Smith Cove or the outlets off the South Shore, this allowed sea water to enter and aided by gravity the unwanted sand contained in it would (by design) slide down, it would eventually settle at the bottom of the Money Pit Sand Sump. No amount of air trapped in any Shaft would effect this simple process.

3/ The only vitally important trapped (and very long) air bubble started at the (relatively clear of sand) stagnant water level marked 25/ It was a deadly booby trap rigged to drown unwanted intruders who were trying to enter the below sea level Repository 30/ filled with Treasure.

4/ Regarding the construction off the off shore outlets. The only real danger occurred when the miners were excavating up to a safe height at the end of each ascending tunnel, they had to be careful not to accidentally let in the sea too soon. To avoid that disaster they could only put a lot off explosives at the end of each dry tunnel. this was in readiness for the day when (in order to close down the mine quickly) the fuses had to be lit.
5/ The fuses could have been lit either simultaneously or independently because no air in the lower tunnels 3 & 9 will suffer any air lock action because the Cave in Pit 2/ was left open at that stage, it was sealed later like all the remaining shafts., the first to be sealed were the air locked 33,32,29, and 27.

Oak Island Sage

 

[chalkoutline]

Perhaps you are over thinking this, please look again at the CAD.

1/ I did try to explain to you that when the mine was being used to receive treasure it was completely Dry. When flooding was eventually required it was achieved efficiently by not sealing the Cave In Pit shaft, this opening would simply allow any air in the tunnels to freely escape without disturbing the Smiths Cove Filter drains at all. Those filter drains were later connected to deal with with the powerful incoming waves on the exposed Smith Cove beach, it was done after the mine was already flooded. The drains were designed to filter sea water filled with sand when entering at high tide levels, not to let air out.
2/ ALL the tunnels on Oak Island were descending either from Smith Cove or the outlets off the South Shore, this allowed sea water to enter and aided by gravity the unwanted sand contained in it would (by design) slide down, it would eventually settle at the bottom of the Money Pit Sand Sump. No amount of air trapped in any Shaft would effect this simple process.

3/ The only vitally important trapped (and very long) air bubble started at the (relatively clear of sand) stagnant water level marked 25/ It was a deadly booby trap rigged to drown unwanted intruders who were trying to enter the below sea level Repository 30/ filled with Treasure.

4/ Regarding the construction off the off shore outlets. The only real danger occurred when the miners were excavating up to a safe height at the end of each ascending tunnel, they had to be careful not to accidentally let in the sea too soon. To avoid that disaster they could only put a lot off explosives at the end of each dry tunnel. this was in readiness for the day when (in order to close down the mine quickly) the fuses had to be lit.
5/ The fuses could have been lit either simultaneously or independently because no air in the lower tunnels 3 & 9 will suffer any air lock action because the Cave in Pit 2/ was left open at that stage, it was sealed later like all the remaining shafts., the first to be sealed were the air locked 33,32,29, and 27.

Oak Island Sage

I noticed on Tuesday you posted that they left shaft 2 open but then deleted the post. I guess it took you a couple of days to revaluate your schematic and now clam the Cave In pit was left open.

You're grasping for straws because your network of tunnels won't work

 

[Oak Island Sage]

When the subterranean system, was finish at every high tide additional sea water would continually enter through the filters at Smiths Cove, this in turn caused the constantly rising air bubbles at the inlets, later described as the ice holes.

Oak Island Sage

 

[Oak Island Sage]

When the subterranean system, was finish at every high tide additional sea water would continually enter through the filters at Smiths Cove, this in turn caused the constantly rising air bubbles at the inlets, later described as the ice holes.

Oak Island Sage

When the subterranean system, was finish at every high tide additional sea water would continually enter through the filters at Smiths Cove, this in turn caused the constantly rising air bubbles at the inlets, later described as the ice holes.

Oak Island Sage

chalkoutline, I can assure you that I'm not grasping at straws, I actually thought I was helping you.
I deleted that post you mentioned simply because I later realised that had accidently posted the same one twice, but don't worry, now you've shown your true colours I won't be posting you again.
We have a old saying in England, "You can lead a horse to water- but you can't make it drink".
Oak Island Sage

 

[chalkoutline]

chalkoutline, I can assure you that I'm not grasping at straws, I actually thought I was helping you.
I deleted that post you mentioned simply because I later realised that had accidently posted the same one twice, but don't worry, now you've shown your true colours I won't be posting you again.
We have a old saying in England, "You can lead a horse to water- but you can't make it drink".
Oak Island Sage

OIS,
I should point out that i have no problem with your suggestion that treasure is buried somewhere else on the island. All Im saying that your network of tunnels and activation method is overly complex and won't work in practice.

If you would like to provide your diagrams/calculations you used to substantiate your theory before you published, i be very interested.

 

[Oak Island Sage]

OIS,
I should point out that i have no problem with your suggestion that treasure is buried somewhere else on the island. All Im saying that your network of tunnels and activation method is overly complex and won't work in practice.

If you would like to provide your diagrams/calculations you used to substantiate your theory before you published, i be very interested.

Oh I'm quite sure you would be very interested, but as Americans say- you blew it.
Oak Island Sage

 

[Oak Island Sage]

How would you propose they do it?

What do you propose to pay me for that confidential information?
Oak Island Sage

 

[Armchair detective]

When the subterranean system, was finish at every high tide additional sea water would continually enter through the filters at Smiths Cove, this in turn caused the constantly rising air bubbles at the inlets, later described as the ice holes.

Oak Island Sage

Why wouldn't the water enter in through the ice hole exits?

 

[Armchair detective]

When I went into the plumbing house to get a doohickey to correct a water hammer problem,
(you know when you turn off faucets real quick there's a banging in the pipes) they smiled a sold me something anyway.

It's a cylinder with an air chamber which acts as a energy damper which actually works pretty well.

For awhile....

Turns out if you pressurize air over water, the air goes into the water. Keep the pressure on and that air all disappears.

No air bubble, but the pressure is still there as water.

 

[Oak Island Sage]

Why wouldn't the water enter in through the ice hole exits?

1/ The man made inlets, (first created by huge upward explosions from barrels of gunpowder stored at the end of the tunnels below the sea bed) these let in cloudy seawater and it always contained a lot of beach sand. Aided by gravity (as designed) this sand perpetually entered and slid in the downward sloping tunnels to eventually settle at the bottom of the Money Pit "Sand Sump". The relatively clear of sand sea water was used to protect the stored treasures by the use of the intricate network of flood tunnels. The mine was only ever flooded once when danger threatened, if anything collapsed in the network after it was closed down indefinitely then it did not matter, that's because in their day nobody dared to go back for the treasure anyway.
2/ The air bubbles were created by the box drains that filtered sea water continually entering at Smiths Cove. As this deluge sped down the sloping tunnel it exited at the east side of the Money Pit shaft, it poured out and rapidly dropped down to the bottom of that already partially flooded deep shaft. This deluge acted like a subterranean waterfall, and that powerful dropping disturbance caused escaping air bubbles to continually rise through the ascending tunnels. On reaching the South Shore those air bubbles continually spread up through the ascending (under the beach) tunnels. At the end of each tunnel they finally to rose up vertically through the holes in the sea bed. Rising straight up to the surface of the sea, this rising air bubbles effect once created the holes in the harsh winter ice. Those holes in the ice will never appear again because the numerous searcher projects have destroyed most of the original flood tunnel network. Many of the tunnels in the mine are now blocked with solidified sand, this in effect means that the treasure is no longer protected by flood tunnels containing sea water. That still leaves fresh water flooding but that can be pumped out.
So in conclusion, all you have to do is find and enter the "Loading Shaft" (see CAD) and simply walk through the "Access Tunnel" to collect your treasure stored in the Repository, piece of cake, but hey don't ask me anything, what do I know I'm just an old dreamer right.

Oak Island Sage